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13 years ago
MartinH
what is so sad, that since I was in Landmark, I am suspicious about everything and don't believe in anything. I am not even sure about the church ...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuotehatothenoThank you everyone for sharing your opinions... I have decided that no good can come from attending this thing. The more I read about this sickness the more hopeless it seems for my friend.... sigh I'll be keeping track of that "How to rescue a lekkie" thread I have been involved in Landmark, and I know many people who still are or have been. My genuin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
Landmark teachings are all useless in the context of true creative and successful work. Creativity needs time, work and endurance, not hype, endless phone calls and nonsense coachings
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteZorroOne of the first things that struck me about what Landmark is teaching people is stuff that most of us already know as well as stuff that they have borrowed from someone else and repackaged it. I used to discuss this very topic with one of my Lekkie friends when I was in there. Everytime a Landmark instructor would give the class a piece of wisdom it seemed like I had heard it from s
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteZorro This whole "What you don't know you don't know" seems very dangerous to me in retrospect. I would even say criminal ...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
the true background of the home introductions: an introduction leaders needs a certain statistics to be successful, or if the introduction leader wants to be a seminar leader, he or she needs to be even more successful, there are certain measures to meet. Endless phone calls among leaders and assistants, how many "guests" they intend to invite and so on. they are very well tr
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue Pill This is NOT a healthy lifestyle. If Landmark were genuinely concerned about the "well being" of their assistants (that always made me laugh), they would proactively monitor the time people were giving up and set limits to allow them to "Have a life" outside Landmark. Of course in reality, Landmark couldn't care less about the well being of t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue PillThanks for all the replies. This is just completely horrific, someone I Love is caught in a web of lies and deceit and I am pretty much powerless to help her. I am going to back off for a while and then I think confront her in some way, but with what? Web site links? Find a reformed Junkie to go and talk to her in person, What? Hi Blue Pill and others, I just wonder whether the b
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue PillHopefully you have read my post regarding my experience with my ex girlfriend who is totally addicted to their drug of "human transformation". She does Introduction Leading and on their Coaching course both of which run in blocks of 6 months of "commitment". I know she spends about 20-30 hours per week on this stuff including time there and all th
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
here is another website done by Landmark graduates who probably feel like heroes defending the true teachings of Landmark against us the "bad ones" and the bad internet :twisted: Since I have participated in this program and met a particularly arrogant leader, I hate Landmark. This is the result from my participation in the team management and leadership program :evil: ,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
the website has been removed .. who was it :twisted:
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteThe ShadowI just heard on the radio that a man from another country (not Canada or the US) is a University Trained chemical scientist (from an acredited university) yet he cannot get any other job here other than taxi driver, security guard, janitor, etc. ISN'T IT AMAZING -- an ex-used car salesman, a hairdress, a clerk, can walk accross the border and do psychotherapy on people, all W
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteON2 LFhere's another one from 43 things how long will it be before that site becomes unavailable? Or does landmark own it? Great and funny, indeed. I cheered the entries :twisted:
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
great idea. But, I think, we have to do it, otherwise it won't happen. Many people leave Landmark, move on with their lives and don't want to deal with it anymore
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
Sad but true, negative press is also publicity ... still people get sucked into Landmark despite the many documentations about Werner Erhard :x
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
apparently it's their new strategy, lets hope it will backfire, it is too obvious like the socalled "introductions" organized everywhere. I am quite optimistic that this strategy will fail.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
my opinion is the internet will finally bring out the full truth and kill off Landmark, and that is what I am looking forward to. Landmark has many manipulative techniques to influence people and conversation, but as you can see from the internet they can't shut down the critical conversations even if they try all the time. For example, 250 people are on the pro-Landmark tribe, 30 people
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteajinajan There is also this cool networking site called Tribe.net Here is their group critical of Landmark Forum, they currently have 30 members: Join if you want to get some interesting dialogue going. I have posted on that one, but there was not much going on at the time. Landmark zombies are also allowed to post. In particular, I like "Werner beat his son. so what, Bing Cro
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteThe ShadowIt is hard to speculate about what Landmark/EST is up to without sounding completely paranoid....but.... I think a lot of the money goes to the "Leaders" who are all extremely well dressed. The Leader who was trying to recruit me kept referring to his wonderful trips to Greece....so I'm sure there kids all go to the best universities, drive good cars, h
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteajinajan[ This group already has (14) members. So if you want to join it, just create your own creative MySpace account, and click join. great, Landmark made started an offensive with new domains .... how about new domains. www.ihatelandmark.com www.idontcareaboutlandmark.com :twisted: www.stoplandmark.com www.landmarkbullshitintheuk.co.uk www.landmarkistscheisse.de
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteVic-LucQuotebigdog Then what? Political power? World domination? I can't seem to figure out what their long term goal is. Just enough time, money, and bad press to be dormant and change hands and names again. Same shit, different decade. EST Werner Erhard and Associates, Landmark .... same shit, different decade :twisted: LOL long term goals: transform this planet, based
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteasThere is quite a difference between the forum and the advanced course. Firstly, I have had considerable experience in the personal development field and seen many top speakers and have a considerable depth of understanding The forum. Firstly the techniques aren't very new. But it is done over an extended period with landmark. The landmark 'take' on the technique (neuro-as
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
Quotesonnie_deeHi shadow, I have constantly said that I was anti landmark. I feel the way they manipulate people is completely unethical, I feel that they way they run their business is very wrong and they way they treat their staff who are not forum leaders is disgraceful. Hi sonnie_dee, actually, I was thinking while reading your replies that I appreciate your style very much. If so
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13 years ago
MartinH
I guess you need to be on the leadership program before you can be a staff member of Landmark education. I wonder how many attorneys they already have ... scary scary
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13 years ago
MartinH
I guess these guys are on the Landmark leadership program (ILP), a boot camp for learning how to get new grads, they need statistics and they have to be unreasonable ! But who is watching the videos anyway. I saw Byron Katie videos recently, they are really good, they show the actual work with people openly and freely (not like Landmark hiding everything) ... Landmark is a fishy and dangerous or
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13 years ago
MartinH
Landmark has some fairly obvious strategies: besides a website for every course an irish web site and a UK website with the same content as the main American website (because of the different English or what ?) These Landmark guys are ... don't want to be too offensive
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13 years ago
MartinH
looks like Landmark :evil: thanks to Rick and his web site where everything is now safe ...
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuotemauriceI went to the office to complain about the call. They denied the call was made from the office. I have also told me that to call me again was illegal. They said they understood that. The moment they say they understand that, i showed my recorder and let them know that everything was taped. That really took them aback. They asked me to leave or they would call the police. "OH
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuotetoneatronicI have to say that I felt some of the same feelings the others posted. After working with Landmark for almost a year now I have to say that my life has changed. I can sympathise with the woman whos husband who cheated on her. What's so is he finally stepped up to the plate and decided living a lie all his life wasnt where he wanted to be. The raquets he was speaking of a
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteajinajan Hampton, if you saw anything like what you described above going on, including unpaid volunteer laborers, or unpaid overtime hours, etc., you can report it to the United States Federal Department of Labor. This complaint will trigger an investigation by the Federal government, again... Yes, we should report that something will be done about it ... not just complain, especially th
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