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13 years ago
MartinH
Quote The first est Training took place at the Jack Tar Hotel in San Francisco, California in October 1971. From this first course, as word of mouth about this powerful and life-changing 'experience-centered' workshop began to circulate, more and more people wanted to sign up, and est began to grow rapidly. this quote is from wikipedia about the EST training ... from inside Landm
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteboonetahoe Here is my personal list of why I am enraged about Landmark (not experienced any others and will never do so). Apologies if I am repeating myself or others 1. The outright hypocrisy of their belief system. For example a statement of “Total care for people’s well being” vs 3am finishes for volunteers. I could go on and list all the others but you are all well informed and know w
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quotecultedu99I have attended a New Warrior Weekend a few years back, and it was life changing for me. I am sad that anyone has suffered from any of the processes associated with the Mankind Project. However, I would invite the critics to look at themselves in the mirror and ask yourself "What was your part in the entire process" It is amazing to me all the energy spent on a
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteboonetahoeQuoteProvide your research and I am objective enough to change my opinion on LGATs. Hmmm. Why am I finding that hard to believe? well used to believe that there is some value in LGATs, but now it is exactly the opposite ... as do some of my friends former "strong believers". reading through your posts, I think you are on some high, believing we are all stu
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteVic-LucThe chances of Werner getting a Nobel Peace Prize are about as slim as me becoming a Center Manager for Landmark Education...as slim as Dubya preaching the benefits of same-sex marriage. :twisted: :twisted: only Landmark zombies make such a statement ... years later after lots of sleep and reality, I am sure they will change their minds. Nooooooooo, Landmark followers have no p
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteajinajanQuoteON2 LFQuoteI wonder if other people share the opinion that these videos remind them more of Dawn of the Dead, Shaun of the Dead, etc., than of anything related to "transformation" ... Totally reminds me of Dawn of The Dead. Or even, 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest', where the main character has his own opinions, constantly challenging the s
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
No 26 (assistant production) to remove the ant ... next act
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteZorroMartinH, What were they saying about Mother Teresa's work? I don't recall much if anything. Now at the Center where I took Landmark they were always referring to Ghandi and his great work. They seemed to be really into the whole passive resistance thing....mainly getting people to be passive. Which I can only see two things from it. Passive to the state that a person
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue PillQuoteMartinHall very dangerous stuff, LE zombies, recruiting other zombies ... life is empty and meaningless, Hitler was empty and meaningless ... MLK empty and meaningless ... Mother Theresa was running a racket ... o my god ... Yes, but I think we should put this into perspective. There is NO WAY these bunch of Looney tunes are going to recruit everyone in the world into their r
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteboonetahoe I suppose it would be up to the individual. Each of us are capable of describing the lives we want. We all have this internal barometer of whether or not we're happy by our standards. If we're reaching those results, or making progress toward those results, that's probably success. These trainings often accelerate clarity and experience. In my experience,
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteboonetahoe I didn't imply that we "need" to reach maturity ASAP. I merely suggested that our joy in life will mirror our spiritual and psychological gains. On the extreme, existing in ignorance and bigotry isn't probably the most joy-filled way of living. On the other extreme, becoming a peaceful and wise soul is generally a more joy-filled life. know what?
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13 years ago
MartinH
you spent most of your time on organizing light bulb home introductions and participated in many light bulb calls, your social life and your work performance declined don't dare to call Landmark to complain, you are just running a racket ... you can experience from their sweetest side.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteVic-LucQuoteZorroThen the 22nd light bulb changer announces to the group that there is this LE vision called "Light Bulb 2020" where by all light bulbs around the world will be "transformed" by the year 2020 and that everyone must go out and recruit people to become LE Light Bulb changers in order to bring "transformation" to all light bu
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13 years ago
MartinH
all very dangerous stuff, LE zombies, recruiting other zombies ... life is empty and meaningless, Hitler was empty and meaningless ... MLK empty and meaningless ... Mother Theresa was running a racket ... o my god ...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue PillThese comments pretty much some up why they are almost impossible to defeat. Take a group of human beings, the sample being skewed towards the "troubled soul" variety. Then put them through a soul searching process with some quick wins up front to sort out friend and family break downs. Trust is earned early on. Concerns with the methods are cleverly concealed w
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue Pill In other words, take a group of screwed up people, chuck as much psychological and philosophical stuff they you call your own at them in the shortest amount of time, some of it will take, some won't, some people will be even more fu**ed up. Never mind, you just focus on the former, surpress and ignore the latter and there you have Landmark Education. Shotgun Psychology run
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteboonetahoe"Blue Pill’s LGAT design, here we go! 1. It would be a clearly defined NOT FOR PROFIT financial structure. No dividends, no shady financial structures. Accounts would be posted in black and white on the company website every quarter for all to see. Investment in developing the business is fine as long as it is in line with the non profit structure. 2. The board to be f
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteJack Oskar LarmQuoteMartinH... at this point comes the STRIKING Landmark argument. Landmark is not about the truth or discussing who is right ... it is about something else, nonlinear learning or so ... and the course goes on, no issue is ever discussed. Even the sharpest-knives are simply shut down. The knife is blunt because Landmark can't find the whet stone (sharpener). You see,
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13 years ago
MartinH
I "learned" during the FORUM not to ask whether something is right or wrong. I was rather looking for some event to happen in myself or others as soon as I gave up to be analytical or critical. I guess this is a part of the LGAT brainwashing.
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteON2 LFQuoteThe problem is that the people who attend LE are too stupid to do any independent research to verify anything a Leader or Coach presents as "fact." Thus the ability of landmark to create sheeple. If landmark had the sharpest-knives-in-the-drawer to deal with every time they held a forum, theyd've gone out of business decades ago. at this point comes the
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteajinajanQuoteMartinH Maybe the weekly check for Werner Erhard is way too high. :twisted: Hehe, maybe, maybe ... to be serious, the amount that is paid to Werner Erhard for licence is known, isn't it? Somewhat contradictory to do fundraising among graduates that pay for a course, and to pay Werner Erhard a large amount of money.
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuotehamptonHas anyone encountered fundraising at Landmark? There was an event at a Landmark center to raise money for Landmark's opening into China. How very sad that a for-profit business can so effectively manipulate people to give more money so they can open more for-profit centers. now I am confused, apparently Landmark is crossing the line :twisted: We were told that the money
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteajinajan Fundraising at a privately owned, FOR-PROFIT company? Has anyone ever heard of "fundraising" at General Electric? Coca-Cola? Or how about the poor CEOs of Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, or British Petroleum? What would people say if those FOR-PROFIT corporations started "fundraising" ? Don't worry, Landmark Education asks its layers before i
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quote"Blue Pill"QuoteZorroThen the next step after SELP is the ILP where you get to once again...drum roll..... have the life you want and help influence society and be further asimilated into "group" thinking. Oh but wait.....don't forget the year long training where you can become a Landmark course leader....or wait how about the "Wisdom Cour
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteJack Oskar Larm It's just plain stupid, really. Smoke and mirrors. Landmark is a circus. If you look into 'their' eyes long enough you can forget to question a lot more than this ridiculous, loopy statement. it does not work, and people don't need something like that at all and people don't really want it. Somebody invented the first car or mobile phone, it work
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue Pill Paper cups for drinking water do not have to look like the front of a spaceship :lol: well, Landmark, our wold-class enterprise with world-class service ...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteJack Oskar Larm Believe in yourself every chance you get. I don't think there's an alternative. Time to 'level up' folks! I know you can. .. sure, Jack. Thanks!
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteHopeI The therapist I went to after this medical person and Landmark didn't think there was anything really wrong with Landmark. She thought that people with OCD might have a psychological crash, but that LF was "based on cognitive behavioral therapy". I was stunned when she said this and didn't go back. I don't trust anything either, don't want
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13 years ago
MartinH
what does Landmark tell a graduate who does not want to register other people: - "your own transformation depends on what you share other people about the Landmark forum" what if a person does not want to tell family members or colleagues: - "it is an exercise to take a stand against the opinion of others" constant pressure for getting new recruits = c
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue Pill Its bollocks isn't it. If it looks like Slave labour, if it smells like Slave labour then what is it? Yes, its Slave Labour pure and simple. hypocrisy + slave labor + feeling superior + registration games ... as long as Landmark does not just offer seminars, it is what is simply called a cult ...
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