Quotehampton I know this is off the original topic, but I have to respond. Based on my former heavy involvement with Landmark, I learned that the paid employees are treated just as poorly as the "assistants," although they have to work 10-12 hours a day with no overtime pay. The one exception, of course, are the Forum leaders who are treated like gods. I know that there are f
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The are not ALLOWED to call you BY LAW ... I would call the center manager in London (and no one else) that you asked s.o. to be on their "DO NOT CALL" list, and it did not happen. Tell him that you are VERY annoyed, and that you don't want to receive any further calls, and if it happens you have to go to court. I am sure, it will stop then. Other office members might be no
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as sonnie_dee said, the list of courses he or she can do is quite long: forum, advanced course and SELP (self expression leadership) ~ 1 year, then he or she might do the ILP 1/2 a year ... one can do plenty of graduate seminars each for about 3 month, then be "coach" herself in the in the SELP and ILP for another 1/2 a year, some people are coaches several times ... If in the
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I just hope the executives are treated like children as well, and taught "I want you to bring your family, your whole company to the Landmark Forum evening session, I want them to sign up ! ". "Come to assist in the office, then you can take care of the tap water we offer the normal (third-class) participant for free in plastic cups."
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Landmark is like the HIV virus, it is always changing its coat ... 50 years from now and everybody of the big business leaders will speak Landmark phrases ...
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Quote"The Shadow"MartinH. What's WE? And absolutely NO FEAR....I am absolutely NOT going near that Landmark/EST office ever again![/quote Werner Erhard
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QuoteThe Shadow ...as I was saying... WHAT A HOOT! -- If anyone really believes the Dalai Lama could possibly learn anything from Landmark/EST, then he/she is certainly existing in an altered reality! from now on I am going to refer to the Landmark "Education" Corporation as Landmark/EST, because, in spite of the fact that Leaders keep saying Landmark has nothing to do wi
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Quote "Hello Comrades ! I have wonderful news ! Your multi-drug resistant Tuberculosis is only a RACKET ! Now, Get Off It !"...... Nooooooooo..... yes, you don't get cancer if you do the Landmark Forum :twisted: I've heard that one many times
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QuotejacquelinejolieI attended Landmark a couple of months ago, because, quite frankly, I wasn't being a very good mother to my kids. A little explanation... (my "story," I guess) :oops: When I was about 20, I got completely hammered at a party, and my brother's friend "took advantage" of the situation - leaving me pregnant. The product of that
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Quotehipo:shock: I'm starting to get overwhelmed by all the posts about this Landmark. I never heard of this company before. . Landmark is like a drug. Once people get sucked in, it is as difficult to get rid of the brainwashing like getting rid of any addiction. Landmark is a VERY DANGEROUS organization. I have a friend who has been heavily involved in Landmark for more than five
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Quotemaurice Unfortunately, I don't have anything more than that. I was arguing with this guy, a SELP leader and ex-friend of mine, about Landmark, EST and Werner Erhard, and I mentioned the Hunger Project and I quoted the same thing quoted by SaneAgain, that only $2m out of $67m raised actually went to help the poor. I asked him if he knew about that. "Yes, I do know about the Hunger
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BTW: in my opinoin, here on this message board the truth is said about LGATs ... I don't know about any other website ... because here meet ex-participants and people concerned about friends and relatives. e.g. "the Landmark is ...shit" message board is too biased :wink:
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the problem might be, that once you are pissed of by the LGAT you don't want to deal with it any further ... As far as my initial participation is concerned, I just was not informed. And at the time it just sounded quite interesting to me. Currently, I am not really interested wasting my time to much on more official steps, rather than writing on this message board my opinions and my p
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it is so good talking to you !
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QuoteRswinters Can you post some links to the documentation that is available for us to read on this stuff? Unfortunatly it is not in English, I will ask for an English translation, it might be available. It was good for me to read a balanced view, since I am far on the negative scale about Landmark :twisted:, but the clear message is: there have to be warnings included and forced by law.
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QuoteRswinters What does MP stand for? Are you okay to expand your letter to address Large Group Awareness Training as whole? My experience was in Klemmer & Associates but as I have discovered its the same garbage, and the same methods, techniques, and many of the same excericises with how the facilitators and staff deal with what gets created in them. with MP I mean my representative
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in my country there is an independent commission of experts initiated by the government the investigates "psychogroups" They have written a very interesting document with more than 200 pages on possible causes, effects on society and prevention, and future laws. Only the worst groups such as radical right-wing or communist parties can be forbidden by law. My point to make about La
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QuoteRswinters Can any other members attest to MartinH intentions being true here. Please don't take offence at me asking this question. I need to be more discreet in how I blast away with on LGAT's. I hope you understand this. Thanks. Hi Rswinters, I am so negative and cynical about Landmark that I was actually asking for help to be able to set up a powerful and formal ett
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Landmark closed offices in Denmark or Sweden too, in Europe it very strong in the UK and in Amsterdam (also in Frankfurt, Germany) here, cult information from Switzerland www.sektenberatung.ch/texte/76.pdf www.infosekta.ch/is5/gruppen/lm_anonymus1992.html I think Landmark closed due to bad press and subsequent drop in participants, but no legal action or something ... Press coverage
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QuoteON2 LFQuoteI have spent quite a lot of time looking at Landmark and I am now very concerned indeed. I went back to her with some of my concerns and she hasn't replied to them at all. I think she does not want to hear it because in the past if I said something she did not want to hear then she would simply not reply. Because I said that our friendship was conditional on her not t
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QuoteednaI have spent quite a lot of time looking at Landmark and I am now very concerned indeed. I went back to her with some of my concerns and she hasn't replied to them at all. I think she does not want to hear it because in the past if I said something she did not want to hear then she would simply not reply. Because I said that our friendship was conditional on her not trying to
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I do not understand why psychotherapists or other mental health professionals and acedemia do nothing about these cults. So far, I have seen only a few studies.
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I world full of Landmark graduates is a sh ...world. We need to do something.
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Landmark reaches a critical mass in my country like a virus. It is absolutely scary. Something happened today, that has never happened before: A friend phoned me, that someone else has invited her to Landmark and asked what I think about it. It is a cult I said. I told her about Landmark 10 years ago, when I was still involved. Using small-world statistics, one could estimate the probability for
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The Landmark Education corporation is continously sueing people all over the world which have critical views on their website to remove the site or include links to "official material", while some of these material from doctors and psychotherapists are written by Landmark graduates. I know at least two for sure. But actually, it should be exactly the other way round. Like tobacco ad
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the more I hear from outside the more scared I get ... all Landmark clones being on a high and desperately trying to convince others to do the courses What kind of weird organization is that
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Quoteedna She is also doing things like practicing being "authentic" or having "integrity". This weird language is very unnerving. More personally, for someone who lives on the other side of the world, she seems very interested in my personal life suddenly. She is giving me advice that tells me to give up being right, which makes no sense. Consciously or unconsciously, sh
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to be fair, some leaders at Landmark do have compassion and find the right way to deal with serious issues. But some just don't. In general, their leaders don't have the proper training, that applies for all LGATs.
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the bottomline as always: The major issue of Landmark are registrations, registrations. nearly NOTHING BUT the money counts, "statistics" ... other issues like people or transformation are only secondary and are discussed to keep registration high ... The participation of big guys is only interesting to get more registrations for Landmark. The guys themself don't interest Landma
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I have been involved in Landmark. A friend of mine was involved over many years, she had a serious issue in the past, and never talked about it at Landmark. She intuitively protected herself and worked on her issues in private. But in the more advanced courses she talked about it, and then she had a mental breakdown after leaving Landmark. Landmark people just don't have any real compass
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