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13 years ago
MartinH
o o o , not a very respectable list to be on :-) Landmark Education works heavily to be seen just as a company that sells courses. However, brain washing techniques and pressure on recruits ... well
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13 years ago
MartinH
I used to attend everything that was kind of novel and interesting with an open mind, lectures about philosophy and stuff. Nowadays, I am suspicious and don't like any training or lecture ... I guess, the Landmark experience inflicted some emotional pain, such that I avoid lectures or anyone telling me what is good or bad.
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13 years ago
MartinH
I can relate to what you are saying, the damage they do to people ... Landmark bastards would just say: It is you not Landmark ... I experienced the damage not in relationships but in my job. I did a program, spent an awful lot of money for traveling more than 300 miles back and forth every other weekend ... I was missing some of the phone calls and I was treated like a criminal because of "
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteZorroIt is very depressing to realize that I have hurt someone that I love, so much so that they now need help. I'm doing everything I can to help my ex get over her issues. It's going to be a long hard road, but it must be done. If I had never been in Landmark this would have never happened. My ex needed a strong person in her life and came to me because of the person that I was.
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13 years ago
MartinH
a European leader on the meeting in Germany said: Landmark does not need you, if you want Landmark you need to do something. In contrast to other countries Landmark registrations staid on the same level and were going down in Germany ... what does Landmark need then? contradictory, in my opinion. Strategy: we are great, if you don't want us, it's your fault.
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteZorroAwesome!! Very interesting. Germans seemed to be very logical in their thinking, I guess Landmarks BS just doesn't play well over there. I wonder how Landmark does in Switzerland and Austria? Logical thinkers there as well. Please keep us posted. Note that the only country where the government classified Landmark as a sect and investigated into their practices to protect it
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13 years ago
MartinH
Today, there will be a meeting about closing the office in Germany. I intend going there (incognito). I will be open to be convinced what a great company Landmark is and what a loss for Germany when it leaves. But I guess I will be disappointed by their arrogant and selfish attitude as usual. I will give you details soon.
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13 years ago
MartinH
Very intersting site. Opinions as everywhere, the Landmark ship might sink. Please note that Zorro is the only one from Canada from the LGAT message board who has decided to post over there, we others are not from Canada and therefore not SO interested. Otherwise Landmark - in their biased view of the world: we do nothing wrong we are the greatest etc .- might claim the negative posts are all fro
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13 years ago
MartinH
actually, I am not tooo concerned: 1) it was directly asked for Canadians, and as far as I can see there are not many Canadians active at least on a regular basis? 2) as a former participant at Landmark (not staff member) I am allowed to tell my opinion about Landmark. They would maybe try to get me "off it" or am I wrong?
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13 years ago
MartinH
in particular, I agree with the following comment below the clip: "The more people who go through the Landmark Forum, courses and IFP track it may be the less sustainable Landmark becomes. As most people leave landmark after a few months, a few stay and are dedicated who often burn out. It leaves an environment of those formerly active that are indifferent, skeptical and some negative about
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13 years ago
MartinH
Hi Jack, it still seems to work, here another one: Donald Rumsfeld speaks Landmarkia: "we don't know that we don't know"
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13 years ago
MartinH
I experienced selfish and arrogant people, that throw people out of programs, that have the lightest criticism, it is their favourite sport
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13 years ago
MartinH
the good news is that as soon as offices are closed they stay closed, and the spook is over, as in France, Switzerland, Sweden or Denmark ... and they leave some people happy, some people indifferent and many annoyed with Landmark. I think in the end LEC courses are not what people really want or need or what works, and the worst thing is their aggressive marketing and recruitment strategy.
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteJohn FoxFWIW, Landmark Education in Brisbane, Australia is having some tough times. I think their term is a "breakdown" when you only get 15 people enrolled and showing up for a LE "relationships" course instead of the intended 60 participants. Only having 15 people enrolled/sold is not regarded as being right or wrong, but a breakdown. John exactly the same is
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13 years ago
MartinH
noteworthy, isn't it? I too don't trust any "happy" organization, even if I think that this is at least a good outcome from my Landmark experience.
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteZorroIt would be great if the major news networks around the world would do an expose on Landmark and how they negatively affect people. But I doubt that the news organizations want to deal with any legal issues that may arise. yes, I think there are no legal issues, if we don't call it a cult or sect. I think the only problems are Landmark addicts trying to convince us that we are run
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13 years ago
MartinH
... and this board is condensing all the valuable information, and many people that participated in LE programs do regular postings here. Landmark postulates Rick is doing all the posts :-) Mine from the main Rick Ross website was even cited in the trial. When I read this I was shocked to death about Landmark's attitude against critics. I am really an ex-Landmarkian.
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13 years ago
MartinH
all very interesting, I saw yesterday a documentation about the early history on Christianity. SInce I was raised as European/Catholic Christian, it was very interesting for me to see that there were several religious movements and that the particular movement (Christian faith) survived and became so successful. But it fighted against the other wide-spread religions and incorporated some componen
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteVic-LucThere are events in Germany until next year at this time, man. Any internal info? they call it "work space" then, the courses will take place, then it's curtains
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13 years ago
MartinH
now, LE lowers itself to maybe leave its office open in Germany, if the Lekkies will be dilligent enough recruiting more people. Thus, there will be an event next week, where Lekkies are "taking a stand" for LE in Germany a for-profit organization, not only oppressors of free speech, but cynical in any of their actions with their "customers", LE is a hit in the face ... poo
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13 years ago
MartinH
Hi John, LE has recently closed its office in Germany. The same happened in Kopenhagen (Denmark) and Zurich a couple of years ago. Apparently, there were not enough recruits a week :-)
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13 years ago
MartinH
very good article that you found !!!!!!!!!! , it saved my weekend ....
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13 years ago
MartinH
you are right, it is outrageous ... I told you on the other Forum, that LE is closing offices due to shortage in recruits ... Lekkies are speechless, there. this is an arrogant, selfish and subtly or not so subtly agressive organization, which relies heavily on slave work etc. thanks to the only board where the truth can be said about LE ... when I was still involved in Landmark, I eventua
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteZorroAre they closing offices in Europe? Where at? a Lekkie friend told me some rumours about Germany, they want to close the office, because there are not enough recruits ...
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13 years ago
MartinH
and Lekkie bosses closing offices in Europe :-)
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13 years ago
MartinH
LME a cult ... indeed it is ...
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13 years ago
MartinH
This is the only message board I know where I could express my negative experiences with an LGAT and I am very happy that this board exists. You don't have to watch this board for years. I still do not go to an LGAT introduction and express my negative thoughts and experiences. I just want to stay away from any arrogant LGAT leader.
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13 years ago
MartinH
I have just waited for this, someone from an LGAT group telling me that I need a psychotherapist or training and that my life does not work ... I have experienced an LGAT (Landmark Education), and my opinion and experience is, it does not work and it did more damage than good.
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