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...People change because they stop listening to the inner voice because landmark teaches us it is bad but the inner voice is our critical thinker. It makes us weigh up consequences properly.
People go into the landmark forum well and come out unwell. Even with their stupid mental health screening it means nothing because they are playing with your mind.
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Now don't get me wrong. Landmarks process is extremely powerful and can be extremely beneficial, however the process needs to be SCRUTINISED and modified by trained psychologists and trained psychologists should be close at hand throughout the FORUM. The ADVANCED course should be OUTLAWED.
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The problem: What landmark don't tell you is the reason why people do this. They say you aren't being honest with yourself and that you just keep reciting 'reasons or excuses'. They fail to acknowledge the fact of the existence of the sub-conscious and that this 'reason why' people cause this on themselves is BURIED in their sub conscious (alongside the traumatic event) and a lot of the times is not actually REMEMBERED. The mind does this naturally- it is a basic mechanism that the mind uses to 'cope' and is usually SUBCONSCIOUS.
And you know what they tell you if your reaction to the repressed memory is too severe? GOODBYE- YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP. SORRY.
What landmark doesn't acknowledge is that people are trying to 'protect' themselves and is quite a natural response to a traumatic incident. They have a behaviour that 'gets them by' but their complaint is related to their behaviour because their protective behaviour actually supresses other behaviours and causes pain and secondary problems in their life. To those that have a severe reaction because the pain associated with this traumatic event is so secere, landmark are not prepared to deal with it. Well if this is the case then they SHOULD NOT DELVE INTO THIS FIELD as they can sometimes do more damage than good- if a person is brought yo this point and then ejected without the problem sorted they RECOIL immensely and experience even more suppression and possible DEPRESSION. This is a field that requires TRAINED PSYCHOLOGISTS and the process should be catered to the individual and in RESPONSE to the reactions of the individual, NOT to a group.
Also, the reason why some people come out having a 'marked decrease' in their confidence in knowing what is 'real' or 'reality and in their own JUDGEMENT is because this method causes people to INTENSELY QUESTION their beliefs- hence JAMES ROWES state.
People ARE there beliefs- their entire experiential STRUCTURE is made up of their BELIEF SYSTEMS. The belief systems allow people to cope and function in everyday life. Landmarks extended process causes marked INSTABILTY to peoples 'belief systems' which is good in a way to dislodge core NEGATIVE beliefs but not good in the way that it SHAKES UP the ENTIRE belief system- This is why people experience a sense of mental instability after the forum. It is FAR TOO MUCH for their conscious minds to process in such a short period and sometimes, too many issues come up to be able to handle. In my opinion these people need psychological guidance after an experience like this, not untrained individuals- this is irresponsible.
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A confirmation that yes I agree- ALL of landmark should be outlawed because any positives people may experience is associated with DAMAGING techniques like 'not listening to the little voice'. My apologies.
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A confirmation that yes I agree- ALL of landmark should be outlawed because any positives people may experience is associated with DAMAGING techniques like 'not listening to the little voice'. My apologies.
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There is quite a difference between the forum and the advanced course. Firstly, I have had considerable experience in the personal development field and seen many top speakers and have a considerable depth of understanding
The forum. Firstly the techniques aren't very new. But it is done over an extended period with landmark. The landmark 'take' on the technique (neuro-association) is certainly far from 'gentle' (especially if you are one of those who go to the front of the group to be questioned 'or in a way interrogated' by the presenter about your complaint) and it's extremely powerful.
Not as 'safe' an environment as they proclaim at the beginning of the course. ALtough a powerful method, it is about as far from a spiritual approach as you can get and there ARE other methods which bring the same result. For example 'the journey' by Brandon bays or just look at any of Michael Domeyko Rowlands material
Through a line of questioning that causes the person to link incredible pain with what their 'complaint' is they are then asked 'whats the payoff'? Because they now have extreme desire to end the pain associated with the complaint, they realize that they are the cause of there complaint and 'remember' the reason why they are causing it, which is usually buried in their subconscious. This is NOT 'dishonesty' as you will read.
The problem: What landmark don't tell you is the reason why people do this. They say you aren't being honest with yourself and that you just keep reciting 'reasons or excuses'. They fail to acknowledge the fact of the existence of the sub-conscious and that this 'reason why' people cause this on themselves is BURIED in their sub conscious (alongside the traumatic event) and a lot of the times is not actually REMEMBERED. The mind does this naturally- it is a basic mechanism that the mind uses to 'cope' and is usually SUBCONSCIOUS.