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14 years ago
MartinH
see below from the Landmark official website ... London is more heavily affected by the economic crisis .. all lies The Netherlands Now Served by Our London Office Unfortunately, because of current economic conditions, the Amsterdam office has closed. Thank you for your participation. We appreciate the difference you’ve made for yourself and others. We hope to continue to serve you through
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14 years ago
MartinH
QuoteLars Bergwikif this is true I am very happy!!! hey Lars, I knew Lars will be very happy now ... you are THE stand for NON-Landmark in Europe :-) as you said, it is because of not enough recruits, as far as I know Landmark requires a certain growth rate (5%) in their offices. but it is definitely true, the office is closed. It is all strange: they have not much costs (only one F
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14 years ago
MartinH
yeah !!!! I wonder if anyone knows more details why actually ... !he Landmark office in Amsterdam was very vibrant and very large. Bad press coverage? Two years ago Frankfurt/Germany was closed, now Amsterdam ... only London is left, Europe is getting the first Landmark-transformation-free area :-)
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14 years ago
MartinH
Hi, I feel sorry for what you went through after the ILP ... how about doing sth else, finding new things to do you love, outdoor activities, or learning sth new? the wold is so full of wonders, nice people and things to learn and know. Probably I don't have to tell you, it helps with heart breaks and everything else
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14 years ago
MartinH
me as well, thank you very much ! Nothing comparable out there ...
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14 years ago
MartinH
the link to the new model of integrity for your enlightment ....
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14 years ago
MartinH
Maybe you haven't known yet, but brain science or learning theory is just beginning to discover and confirm now, what Landmark (Werner and his "course" designers) has taught us for many years. I just can't help being "heavily" cynical about that statement :-) .
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14 years ago
MartinH
Apperently, Werner Erhard, and Steve Zaffron (the CEO of the Vanto group = Landmark for business) have drawn some guy from Harvard Business School into their Landmark cult thing. Maybe he had some breakthrough with his ex-wife in the Forum, well ... and now he is convinced for some time, that Landmark is so great maybe ... Now I hear the Landmark choir singing around the world: Even Harvard
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14 years ago
MartinH
Hi Martin, nobody here wants to be reminded of any of the subtle Landmarks techniques'. Apparently you are applying them here, recreating people and stuff. Please become aware of the program Landmark has inserted into your brain. It might take some time ... I want a Landmark free world ...
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15 years ago
MartinH
Hi Exland. Sorry to hear what you are being faced. Here is another web site, I post it here, before Landmark forces it to be removed, they have sometimes done that in the past. I was sleepless for many month too, but now I am back to normal. from Young Girl's Dreams My True Story... Hello, I'm 20 years old and I enrolled in Landmark Forum&#
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15 years ago
MartinH
one reality TV feature on BBC and they are gone in London as well.
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15 years ago
MartinH
QuoteSeanKFor the record Corboy, I am not "trying to get boosted off of RR.com so that can get promoted within organization." And saying that I "sound just like the other types who show up here," is neither fair nor accurate. I posted this thread because I don't think Landmark deserves much of the criticism it receives. No organization is perfect. We could pick apa
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15 years ago
MartinH
Hi SeanK, what you describe is just the one side of it. But what do you say about the fact, that a significant fraction of Landmarkers end up as Landmark selling machines for free? It is part of the programs of Landmark to tell people over and over to invite their family and friends. Personally, I would call that "brainwashing". Let's say 8% of the people in the Forum end up
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15 years ago
MartinH
I lost my job due to some women leading the TMLP. she was arrogant and persuaded me to stay in the program, then she started to treat me as she wanted. it is a very good place to have power over people.
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15 years ago
MartinH
I would like to gather some opinions about this question ... Though people are free to come and leave at any time, there is a mild tendency to brainwashing ... (1) Main point: The constant "pressure" on participants to bring new guests. Every course includes "guest conversations". Some if not most participants think that it is a very important thing to invite new guests
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16 years ago
MartinH
spies planted everywhere ... no I am originally from Germany, but I am working in Amsterdam/Netherlands; a close friend of mine is still very active with Landmark and telling me all news about it ... the center is closed due to lack of registrations.
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16 years ago
MartinH
Sorry Vic-Luc for not being very specific, it is my way of coping :-) being slightly cynical about it all ... yes, the center in Frankfurt will be closed, the last Forum will be in January. The center has existed since the 80s, so it is a big step.
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16 years ago
MartinH
Quote How exactly do they control your mind? I don't really understand how sitting in a room for three days in uncomfortable settings could send someone into a psychosis or make them a mind slave. How exactly do they achieve "Mind Control" over you? after being brainwashed by Landmark you will repeat prototype pro-Landmark arguments over and over like a Zombie, you will not cri
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16 years ago
MartinH
I think it does not work in the long run. Some things might improve, but only internally with other LE graduates, but not in the outside world. Positive effects are overlayed by negative effects, which are also a result from your participation.
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16 years ago
MartinH
Will they even con politicians or democratic systems with the same strategy (soft and adapted, and only after money) ? I am getting more and more concerned and angry about this. They leave people mentally ill, and just get away with it. Let this do a psychologists, he might end up in jail.
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16 years ago
MartinH
yes, Anticult. In Europe, there is also religious freedom, and it is therefore difficult to get them. However, politicians become aware that something is fundamentally wrong with these organizations, so they feel a strong need to act to protect citiziens. By law, there are not many ways to get them. And if they are classified as a religion, they are fully protected. But its ridiculous, what God d
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16 years ago
MartinH
soon one megalomaniac staff member is left, saying "registrations registrations" and "throw them out" all the time, the office will definitely close.
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16 years ago
MartinH
The Secretary of the Interior officially said now that Scientology is against the constitution and that it declines democratic principles. Information and prevention are most important for dealing with Scientology. They are checking the possibility of a ban. The press says that if the state fails to prove this to the courts, it will further strengthen Scientology.
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16 years ago
MartinH
Here a definition fo Scientology I read in the press, which applies to Landmark as well: "I think it is neither a church nor a religious movement, not even a cult. It is rather a brutal commercial society, which places its members (one should say "victims" under disability and dependeny with bad psycho tricks in order to sell them expensive , but nonsense literature, partly under
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16 years ago
MartinH
QuoteBlue Pill Its hilarious isn't it , its a bit like going up to crack cocaine addict and asking them what they think of heroine addicts and being told by the crack cocaine addict that heroine addicts have some real problems with addiction and how evil heroine is. Yes, "WE are NOT scientology" :-) QuoteBlue Pill Going back to topic, I wonder which particular parts of the Ge
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16 years ago
MartinH
The German government is taking official actions against Scientology. There will be official investigation whether the goals of Scientology are conform with the constitution. And then it might be banned ... big press coverage !!! It might be the beginning that LGATs are getting into the radar of governments ...
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16 years ago
MartinH
From all my experience I strongly believe that Landmark is some kind of religion or a cult. It is scary how they try to undermine the freedom of press. It has to be stopped.
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16 years ago
MartinH
QuoteON2 LF But back to the comparison between Christian beliefs and landmark's. To be quite honest I feel as though I am degrading my beliefs somehow by comparing them to landmark. My feelings toward landmark and its practices are the same as what I feel toward any LGAT, they are despicable in every way I can think of, and are offensive to any good instruction one may find out there. They c
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16 years ago
MartinH
Quoteajinajanhttp://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-16286.html The United States Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor's Sweden: International Religious Freedom Report 2006 states that Sweden has labeled Landmark Education as an "active religious group" A significant number of smaller, internationally active religious groups have also been establish
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