About Martin the joker ... I believe it is likely that he is a real Landmark graduate. And that he just wants to make us fell stupid about wasting our time among non-Landmarkians. Chances are that he is trying to manipulate us into thinking that we are hostile to Landmark without any sound reasons, just because we are hostile people and because we have a problem. Next, he will be offering u
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Quotehype2120She looked at me like I was nuts. And she rattled off a list of "paid positions" at Landmark...like the phone operators, the cleaning crew, some of the facilitators, etc. She rattled off a pretty big list. Is she correct? How many people are really on the LEC payroll? I just want to have my facts correct. Does anyone know the answer? Thanks! I'm in Montr
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QuoteBalkanBoyElena - I picked up the Landmark 'jargon' while looking for cult news. This site is one of the most informative ones on the issues and so I thought I'd play a practical joke by provoking people into thinking I've been at the Landmark forum :). So now you know - I have not been to it - but I enjoyed the response I squeezed out of getting people to think that I co
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BalkanBoy, QuoteBalkanBoyNow, let me answer by stating - if you were 5 years old, never ever stepped in poop, and >you stepped in poop - but your mom or dad did not "traumatize" you (I don't like to use the >word traumatize, but it's just as appropriate to my point I hope) to think that stepping in dog >poop is bad - would you have exclaimed the same?
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Good news! I watched 1h French documentary documentary “Voyage au Coeur d’une secte” that was presented on France-3 in 2004 (it took me a while to find the complete documentary through emule). The investigation into Landmark Education was carried out thanks to a journalist Laurent Richard (who was not paid by France 3), equipped with a hidden camera. He did the Forum training course and worke
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QuotepizzaslapThe idea of cults and particularly LGAT, is fascinating. The curiosity began when a friend of mine joined Landmark and returned as a creepy manic-depressive version of herself. It was disturbing and was similar to the way my brother acted during his heroin addiction. Forutnately, both my friend and my brother have since dropped the monkeys off their backs. Revisiting the experien
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Hi, This is a very interesting and important debate. To instill the belief that the victim is fully responsible for their illness is not new. I have found this paper dating back almost 30 years ago (see below). It is also called "The ideology of choice" by some authors. This ideology serves very well New Age cults because if their methods of endoctrination causes psychologica
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Quoteroveberg "I'm going to be the best son I can be for my parents, the most supportive boyfriend, the best mate you could possibly have, the most effective employee, and someone who is CLEAR that they make a difference in others' lives." ... you probably mean as long as everybody joins you in Landmark. What if your family, collegues or employer start opposing you when yo
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QuoterovebergWIN / WIN, I know, is a weird concept for most of you. Here's the thing: this technology isn't just about learning word processing, or how to balance a cheque book, its about your LIFE - . Expert manipulators (that's what landmark is all about - manipulation peoples mind using expert techniques) can easily make you believe that you are in a WIN-WIN situation, but in
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Quotesaili291 A brilliant new object of affection introduced me to this stuff, it amazes me how “SOLID” and sold she was, ... This sound sooo familiar! I love this quote from M.T. Singer: "To increase member's recruiting potential, typically cults train members to smile, appear happy, be outgoing, and give attention to newcomers." MD
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QuoteThe_TrooperIf she's come through the Forum, lecture series and Advanced Class unscathed (she's still a great gal!), do I have much to worry about here? Later! Get her out of there before it's too late. Or join her. But it's one or the other. Remember. And try to find out why so many people describe landmark as a cult. Here are a few quotes from Margaret T.
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QuoteGlenOne post... no response since. Why do we bother with these obvious LC drones that pop up with a "recruitment" post then disappear??? On first thought, I think this could be a very interesting debate. Because Landmarkians are all alike and they take coaching when in difficulty, it would be like a battle between us (science, logic, education) against them (obscurism, cult, man
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QuoteHope He named his chair "my problems" and threw it onto his back and dragged it around all over the stage, pretending he was crying and anxious and looking for pity. Then he mocked the entire field of psychology and therapists. I saw the same thing during an Introduction. I had to assist to the Introduction because my ex-girfriend bursted into tears when I said I didn't re
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Quoteroveberg I throw the challenge out there for anyone to convincingly argue that any of the cases online fall under anything other than those categories I mentioned. You certainly mean You and your coach or coaches, don't you? I doubt you could withstand the truth and sound logic very long without your coaches. My ex tried very hard to convince me, and she used all the tactics she mas
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QuoterovebergHi, I'd like to throw open a new topic on this board about Landmark Education. Only this one will be slightly different from others. I'm really really curious as to what people have to say about Landmark, and sharing my experiences and personal thoughts on the enterprise. I'm not interested in people gathering agreement for their point of view, and I will stat
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Hi, My ex-girlfriend was a Landmarkian. I think once they get to the ILP, they are fully endoctrinated and it's too late to intervene. This is where it becomes a cult. They will try to suck you in no matter what, or they'll kick you out of their life. They just want to "share with you ..." and bla-bla-bla, but the ultimate goal is to endoctrinate you to join their cul
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QuoteTonicheck out www.bpdcentral.com Life w/ a cult member is very similar to life with someone with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). Tks for that reference, corboy, it's been helpful. YES Tony!!! Your are absolutely right. Walking on Eggshells that is, and you can turn from the most cherished and loved person in the world to being his/her most fierce enemy in a flip of a
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Quotefoodguypdx We ended up having a huge argument about her involvement. It got so heated that I almost ended the relationship. Hi, I've been through a similar situation very recently, and arguing was frequent. You can read all about it here: The fact that I was resisting her enrolling techniques ended our relationship. The only way I could have saved our relationship was
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Quotesonnie_deeWhat's the "empty & meaningless" pitch Doesn't it mean that your life is empty and meaningless without the big and happy Landmark family? To me, it's just an emotional hook to keep you in Landmark's circle of influence. My ex-girfriend used to tell me that if it was not for Landmark, she would probably commit suicide!!! MD
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QuotereyedgeI went through the exact same thing! My ex used the same exact words! Her name wasn't Valori was it? Anyway I am proud to say that I know the exact pain that you went through. It has been almost 8 months but I still suffer from nightmares from time to time. I am proud to say that I am a better man for going through what I did. I could have broken down and just gone along wi
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Researcher, Strangely enough, I found your website yesterday night even before I read your post. I was trying to find some explanations as to why Landmark’s system of logic can lead to psychosis. I did your demonstration on the subliminal vision, and I agree with you that the phenomenon exists. However, I fail to understand why a flickering light or movement in my subliminal peripheral visi
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Quotesonnie_dee She would have been coached in all her interactions with the hope you would feel like this and then register into the Landmark forum this is what they want. in their introdutions they really work hard to get people in touch with these "negative" emotions.. the emotions people dont want so they can then say well in the landmark forum you learn how to not have these contro
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QuoteTimmerWhat makes you think that "What the Bleep" is associated with Landmark? Peharps I wasn't clear in my post. When I talk about <<Landmark's cult movie "What the bleep...">> I don't mean it originated from Landmark. I simply mean that it has become a cult movie for those people at Landmark. I think they consider that movi
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Dear folks, I forwarded my letter above to my ex-girfriend in an effort to get "complete" with her if I may use the Landmark jargon. This was her stunning reply : "please do not send me anymore of your hate mail. If you try to contact me in any way I will call the police." I feel morally destroyed and disgusted !!! I realize this is what the Landmarkians are excell
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My recent encounter with a Landmarkian has created psychological damage to me. I can feel it. I feel anxious, sad, powerless, frustrated. I have a strong scientific background, and I trust my judgment and my insights when it comes to interpreting information and facts, but at the same time I feel powerless because I was unable to make a difference for her. My Landmark ex-girlfriend tried v
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Elena, This is what I thought at first too. That she was intelligent enough to go out with someone from Landmark in order to avoid confrontation in the future. But no. He is not from Landmark. And she says he doesn't need to do the Landmark Forum (!?). In my opinion, he will have too sooner or later, because she will just want to "share" her Landmark experience with him lik
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After I told my girlfriend that I was reading the book "Cults in our Midst", she littrelly flipped. She cried for 30 minutes over the phone. She came to my office the next morning, and she cried for an hour. She said she wants to make a difference for me, that she loves me so much ... Two days later, she kicked me out of her appartment because we argued again about Landmark. And
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QuoteohtheplacesyoullgoI don't get it.... why do people refuse to accept that their opinion is not necessarily the opinion of everyone else?? :P Opinions are based on personal experience. Personal experience is different for different people. This means the perception of the truth is different for different people. Some can see the truth, others no. The truth is universal. It
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Quotesonnie_dee This is extreamly typical of landmark education! If it weren't for the fact that I know it would be silly for me to do I would like to go to an introduction pretend to know nothing then ask about it being a cult using france as an example! see what the introduction leaders say Sonnie, Essentially, they will quote the expert report from Dr. Raymond Fowler who declared th
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Quoteelena If you look at the bizarre effects of Landmark taking over the minds and personalities of many of their followers, you realize that the "new" personalities, the ~transformed~ selves, the ~aware~ and "improved" minds are reflections or often replicas of Werner Erhard's. Ellen Elena, Your analysis is much interesting and scary! It reminds me of the movi
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