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midonov123
I feel morally destroyed and disgusted !!! I realize this is what the Landmarkians are excellent at: put down, destroy and crush people who are against their practices.

Was my letter really a "hate" letter !??? Was it that bad ??? Where is all the "love and sharing" those people are talking about all the time?
I feel like jumping off the window (but don't worry I won't do it).

Michael D.

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elena
Hi CNFT,

[I particularly found "The Art of Seduction" chilling in this regard.]


--Yes. And if you're in the mood for some really scary stuff, take a look at the "speed seduction" information. It's the NLP-types, who have, evidently, taken it to the next level. Reading what they "offer" will make your hair stand on end - not so much that it works, (which I couldn't say but don't believe could be that effective), but that there are guys out there willing to pay money for these "tactics" and think it's perfectly OK. Are they preying on the fantasies of dweeby guys who would like to become "wolves," or are they pandering to the revenge fantasies of guys who think they've been taken advantage of? Either way, they're playing the same game - turning "victims" into "victimizers."


[The impression that I walked away with from many New Age healers is that the majority of them mean well, and in my own experience many of them were even effective. I'll concede that this may have been a "placebo" effect, but regardless even if it was as such, it says much for the power of the mind to heal nevertheless. And I find allopathic's total disinterest in such curious.]


--It's not that traditional practitioners are not interested in alternative medicine. There are lots and lots of "real" doctors doing and writing about alternative methods. But too often alternative types offer their wares as equivalent or replacement of traditional therapies instead of offering them in conjunction, support, or after or wherever conventional medicine fails. And also, there are waaaaay too many charlatans.


[Regardless I think that it's fair to say that like in any profession you have GREAT performers, Average ones and Worthless ones...and then there are those who are more interested in engendering in their clients a sense of learned helplessness which leads to having a perpetual customers. I suspect Landmark falls into the last group.]


--At the very least.




[And thus Landmark has painted itself into a corner. If it admits to a belief in reincarnation and the pre existence of the SOUL as being our true state of being then it has to admit that it's either a religion or that it has HUGE religious implications. That's bad for business]


--Funnily enough, and because Werner Erhard was neither educated nor particulary intelligent, they did use L. Ron Hubbard's "time-track" and past-lives regression in the early est "programs." Someone must have whispered in his ear that this stuff would put him into the "loony" category pretty quickly and he quietly dropped these, along with the "E-meters."


[On the other hand if it doesn't then ultimately Landmark's claim that we are responsible for everything that happen to us are not only HUGELY inhumane & unfair, but they make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE even from a more GNOSTIC/Eastern Philosophical ontological sense.]


--But they do in a megalomaniacal, solipsistic, Aleistar Crowley sense because that is where L. Ron Hubbard picked them up. The early accounts of him and his sci-fi buddies in Pasadena are a riot. You can read a short chapter about them in Mike Davis's "City of Quartz."



[And so Landmark had no other choice, and loiters in between, in the hazy gray area, hoping that once they've got the latest participants sold then that same haziness will simply allow the converted to hear/see whatever it is they want to see when faced with such. Thus such contradictions need never be addressed, for seemingly all capacity for critical thinking in this particular regared has been effectively neutralized in the satisfied customer.]


--Yes.



Ellen

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Now, have I leaned something out of this intellectual exercise I’ve been doing for the last couple of months? The answer is yes. And I need to thank my ex-girlfriend for that. I have decided to use my background as a physicist (yes I am a professional medical physicist) and organize seminars for residents, doctors and my fellow medial physicists to discuss about the influence of modern science in Alternative Medicine in order to help my community in how to deal with patients that are puzzled by all the quaky physics and medicine that is available outside the mainstream medical world. This is not to say that all alternative medicine is quackery. But an intense effort is needed to educate our community about cults, about indoctrination, false beliefs, strange forces acting between people, the power to create the reality and ultimately the power to heal.

I have only scratched the surface so far ... and I feel overwhelmed by what remains to be done in our fights against cults and other quackery.

Michael D.

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Good-connection - rumor has it that a large majority of DCD & military have been "compromised" with lec, but undercover..remember Rumsfield's "we do not know hwat we do not know"?

The herd is def. asleep!!!!!!

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reyedge
I went through the exact same thing! My ex used the same exact words! Her name wasn't Valori was it?
Anyway I am proud to say that I know the exact pain that you went through. It has been almost 8 months but I still suffer from nightmares from time to time.
I am proud to say that I am a better man for going through what I did. I could have broken down and just gone along with it, but instead I trusted my instincts and learned of these evil people who only take advantage of people who are without direction.