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16 years ago
midonov123
QuotefoodguypdxHow many of you have participated, recently, in the Forum or other seminars. Sonnie_dee I know from your posts that you were in the organization for a while, but when? Are your accounts recent. . I just can't believe this one!!! He is asking you Sonnie to come back to Landmark as if you didn't "get It" !!! Definitely, that foodguy is completely lost in th
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuotefoodguypdxWell, now I quite sure that this post will be met with the same dim witted pablum pewking responses that the first post did. I only use these words, because this is the overall tone of YOUR responses. Some very good points were made, some were very weak rhetoric of the isolationists that swear our government is covering up UFO's. Come on people think. Most of you just sat
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16 years ago
midonov123
It is my guess that foodguy is not going to answer any of our replies. He was asking for INTELLIGENT responses. But what I read above is probably not INTELLIGENT enough for him. Shame on us! The problem is you cannot "reason" with this kind of people. The New Age philosophy is about a paradigm shift that asks for replacing "reason" by "experiencing" through yo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuotefoodguypdxI have taken both the Forum and Advanced Course. To those who speak of brainwashing or manipulation I challenge you to defend those points of view. ... In closing, I invite any INTELLIGENT response to this post. If you have taken the Forum or Advanced Course and had a bad experience, then you had a bad experience, much like at a restaurant. If you have participated and h
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16 years ago
midonov123
Madeleine Houle, founder of Plein Potentiel en Action (PPA) seminar series in Montreal claims that she took most of her training from Landmark Education. In her book entitled "Plein Potentiel en Action, Victime de nos maladies ou responsable de notre santé (victims of our illnesses or responsible for our health)" she writes (this is a free translation to English): “ It is impor
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoterealitychickDuring the 70's when I was about 9 or 10 my parents took my brother and I to an Erhardt Seminar Training that was specifically for children. I have been trying to find information on this on the Internet and can't find anything related to the subject of a children's training. Is there anyone out there who has been through this same experience? As an adult lookin
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteConcerned Oz* 23 Feb 2004 - I pass to her a document written by a local Uniting CHurch Minister explaining how the philosophy of Landmark is about "being God", creating all possibilities. This document made her realise that the philosophy of Landmark was counter to her religious beliefs. Oz, It looks to me as if the "religious beliefs" were crucial for helping your
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteFire499My sister-in-law has just been admitted to a psychiatric hospital in Dublin having attended 4 day on a Landmark course, as far as we can asertain she recieved no food and was anable to sleep for these 4 days. Due to weird changes in her behaviour, extreme mood swings and an aparently false sense of wellbeing, my wife and I called her GP and she was committed last night into a Dublin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotepatrick-darcyit amazes me sometimes to hear from so many people, to read so many different accounts of friends or family or boyfriends or girfriends or whatever that are now involved in the landmark cult. i think it would be interesing to have a discussion as to why so many people are so vulverable to them. i understand the hyponosis and how effective it is but to get hypnotised th
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteConcerned OzMike - What you have written is mostly correct however, I don't know in what context you are saying that LE participants never come out of their delusional state. There are people on this board who have recovered and my GF has also. She fully understands she was deusional about her abilities and totally understands she was put under a form of hypnosis during the Saturday
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuotelightwolfI am willing to try and remain friends, however, and was looking for some additional info on tips for providing an alternate message from those of you who have endured a friendship with someone in Landmark. :) Lightwolf, I like compare people indoctrinated in Landmark to patients who have suffered from psychosis. Those who have suffered psychotic episodes can live normal live
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16 years ago
midonov123
Quotelightwolf I am friends with a Lekkie (actually we just mutually ended a dating relationship -- my side of it I just wasn't going to be treated rudely and I wasn't in love with the person she had become in Landmark), who is in DEEP. ! Lightwolf, I was in a similar situation recently. The key word here is being "treated rudely". There is no place for that kind of an
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16 years ago
midonov123
Hi everyone, I am looking for testimonies, documentations or evidences that Landmark is promoting in a way or another "self-healing", if not in the Forum maybe in some of the advanced seminars. If I can get some documented proofs that Landmark is driving normal people away from conventional medical treatments by instilling the beliefs that their diseases (physical or mental) are
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotesynapsisso what do you guys know about this place?? This is only one of the many centers to offer spiritual/mind/distant/quantum healing, much like Deepak Chopra is doing. A few other centers/gurus are : This type of beliefs follow from the original work of Elisabeth Targ on distant healing (West J Med. 1998 Dec;169(6):356-63). This was the first double blind study
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteskepticI have the same question about finding existing lawsuits on the LGAT that conned me for 6 years. Does anyone know what actually constitutes a case? As PSIsurvivr said, something very wrong was happening there. I'm under the impression, though, that someone has to have suffered measurable damage, such as psychiatric hospitalization, attempted suicide, in order for there to be
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16 years ago
midonov123
I have recently found out that "buddhaguy" is giving an initiation to Kabbalah at a well known College in Montreal. See: Reading through the course description, it appears to me that this buddahguy is likely to be somekind of a guru enrolling people into Kabbalah. For example, he says: "if you have the desire and make the effort - you to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotesonnie_dee Its better just to stick to NO. I dont want to. Please stop pressuring me, use of the pressure word is important because landmark has been trying to get rid of the view that they pressure people. Use of the word pressure automatically makes people back off. I wonder how Landmark graduate can stick to this one. How can you "share your new possibilities" without pressur
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteDynamixWhenever I criticise Landmark, my friend always comes back to me with "the Landmark technology has made such a difference for me in my life" (he'll then go on to list the things he got out of doing the courses, like how he doubled his income, reunited his astranged family members etc) "so no one can ever convince me that it's bad. That's the bottom line f
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotenutty. She is still a Christian too. Look at the Book of Job in the Bible. It deals with Victimization vs Empowerment. The conclusion from the Book of Job is in clear contradiction with the philosophy of Landmark (empowerment - taking full responsibility for EVERYTHING). God said Job was "not responsible" for all the misery he had gone through. Say that to a Landmark leader!
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuotenuttyAll I have to deal with is stress, disruption and having to go behind her back for her own god. The time I actually spend with her is still great. I wonder what she was like before the Forum? Thank you for your support, I understand what you are trying to do, but the day she will find out what you are doing, she will probably react very strongly. You are actually working against he
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteDynamix. I'm not sure I would have made the decision to leave if not for her sage words of advice on that night after I completed the forum. . Doing the Forum is only the first step of the indoctrination process. Nutty, your girlfriend might ask you to do the Forum to begin with, but that will probably not be enough despite her promises to leave you alone after you have completed
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
I don't want to be pessimistic, but from what I have experienced, a relationship with someone in Landmark is not possible unless you become involved too. This is the last post I got from my ex-girfriend. It says it all! "It was only ever my intention to give you a life of happiness, to let you see what was in your way of fulfilling on what you wa
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
This sounds very familiar. Are you from east Canada? Is she from a far away country in the southern emisphere?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
I found this recently, but the original post dates back about a yer ago. A reporter fro CBC market place is investigating Landmark Education. Anybody knows what happened with the story? I reproduce the entire link below. ============================================ Fwd: FW: Media Request - Market Place Joseph Snyder jsnyder at alcor.concordia.ca Fri Jul 16 13:32:10 EDT 2004 P
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16 years ago
midonov123
Being affiliated with McGill, I was outraged to find out this one by Mr. Parente. I knew Landmark was trying to recruit on campus, but not this way! But, this is the reply to Mr. Parente from other students from McGill. I am glad to see that he didn't go nowhere ... for now. On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 08:33:23AM -0400, Linux Geek wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 01:42 -0400, J
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16 years ago
midonov123
Quotekey-key-keyHi everybody, I've heard about this report a lot, but actually could't find iy anywhere. in the lf website there is just a short synopsis. Does anybody know how i could get it? Also where i can find more about it? I'm doing a project about lgat and i need as much information as possible. thanks It's now available through e-mule.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotefreaked outI see now that many people have requested similar help for friends in threads past. Seems that "saving" my friend is hopeless. I guess I will just try not to alienate her too much and continue resisting the recruitment tactics. You are right. They are trained to resist any attempt to contradict their new system of beliefs. When you force them into a contradiction i
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteGulab JamonHow else would they suck so many people in? Using deception and trickery.
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16 years ago
midonov123
It’s been a long time since I wanted to write about this one, and this is the occasion. Thanks for the opportunity. In the Harvard report (A Harvard Business School Case Study: Landmark Education Corporation: Selling a Paradigm Shift), it is claimed that: “Philosophers whom Erhard and Landmark acknowledge as having contributed to their work, include Aristotle, Albert Camus, Jurgen Haberma
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteAcid Reindeerhe does say "done our work in" rather than "done our work with". Very good point!!! "In" like "Intruding". "In" like "Infiltrating". "In" like "Insidious". That's how cults operate.
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