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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteAcid Reindeeras you requested, QuoteWe've done our work in the State Department, Legislative Branch, fortune 100 companies. Been written up by Harvard, USC college of Business, Talent Foundation, Time, Newsweek. All about the difference we make in community...and the communities are person by person by person. Following Dr. Margaret Singer's study on that group, I would desc
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16 years ago
midonov123
Quotegrub Other than making lots of cash off recruits I don't know their plans. Is that true, the bit about 2020? I haven't read that before. It is true. It is in the Harvard report which is (or was) distibuted to Landmark graduates only. I got a copy from my ex-girlfriend and she kept repeating me about this utimate objective for year 2020. She really believed in it. She is a t
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16 years ago
midonov123
Do you know if Landmark is still on target to achieve world peace by year 2020 by having everybody attending the Forum? Is this the final rise of the Age of Aquarius? This New Age cult have great ambitions, but it's unrealistic and all based on deception and trickery. Honestly, which government will buy into this idiotic objective?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
I remember my ex-girlfriend telling me the more pressure you put on people, the more they resist, like you say. The point here is to let go so there is no more resistance (since the pressure is gone) and to let the time go by just to come back stronger and more subtily at a later time. Like she use to tell me "I will not ask you to do the Landmark Forum ... for 3 months" !!! That was
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteAcuracura Introductions to the Forum shouldn't be ambushes, they should be invitations. Sometimes Forum participants don't tell their guests what to expect, maybe because they don't know or they're afraid their guests will say no. I think people really do mean well; they want to share their breakthroughs with the people important to them, but sometimes the sharing just do
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteAcuracura Landmark really doesn't want to pressure people into doing things, but I believe that sometimes the people who are part of it (like introduction leaders and program leaders) don't convey that very well or don't manage what is sometimes a very fine line between the Landmark distinction "enrollment" and what guests perceive as "pressure". The &quo
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteSavernake Still, I'll remember this in case it's applicable in future (ie if I meet someone who's sucked into Landmark who also believes in the Bible). That was the whole point about my argumentation. Use it as necessary. Still, I'd like to hear a Forum leader argue that Landmark has no religious implications. As you can see, Landmark's New Age ideology does hav
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
You are a curious person, but it is dangerous. It's all about manipulation and indoctrination. And those people are expert in it. You've probably been manipulated into registering because your friends know your weaknesses. And what you can expect is to learn how to manipulate others into registering into Landmark. They call it feeling "empowered", so you can overcome your
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotelanajae Does anyone know if Landmark zombies get "credit" just for people attending the information/recruitment meeting? Of course they do. That's part of the whole gimmik. Those who do the ILP training or other advanced training (like seminar leader) must fill their "objectives" by enrolling people to an "Introduction". I know that for the seminar le
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuotegrubHi all, Someone near and dear to me has been caught up in Landmark for a few years now, he's involved enough that he flies around spewing their mind-rotting shit. (those that follow alt.fan.landmark will know me, it's no secret) Anyhow, for some time now some family and friends have been receiving the occasional "I want to share what happened at the Forum..." email
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotelanajae I've read all the posts from people who say Landmark worked for them. They are all identical to the point of being scary. Don't you value your individuality and your ability to express yourself? The last place any secure person would want to go to is someplace that churns out clones, unless they've become convinced that IS their security. Lanajae, Landmark put a
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuotelanajaeHi, It's been awhile since I posted about a friend who's girlfriend got him involved in LE. Around Christmas she broke off their engagement and he returned to his former self, although completely denied that LE had anything to do with the breakup (B.S.). He's a single parent with custody of his two kids, ages 13 and 16. My children are close to these kids.
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteSavernakeQuotemidonov123If something goes wrong in your life, it's not always because of you. There are so many examples I could come up with, but the one I prefer is the book of Job which illustrates that Landmark's teaching goes against the Bible. I'm not really that familiar with the Bible -- what happens in the book of Job? Job was a rich and wealthy man but then he
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteSavernakeMichael D -- I think you missed the note of irony in Dynamix's post. I don't think he's promoting Landmark, just the opposite. I agree with you. I guess my message was addressed to YZFR1. I was not targeting anyone in particular but all Landmarkians.
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteDynamix I've completed the Forum and half completed the advanced, so I feel I can comment. Landmark is fantastic at solving the problems it informs you that you have. The problem most people have is that they are easily manipulated and deceived. I have two big problems with the Landmark "philosophy". One is about "authenticity", the other one is about &quo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotesonnie_deeMidonov, I think I will reclarify what I mean, I do not mean for anyone to run away from this, I still recommend exercising caution in dealing with a graduate manager or someone who is in a position to fire you. I have heard and unfortunately seen people work out ways to "legally" get rid of staff and replace them with graduates. It is completely unethical and s
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotesonnie_deeI would strongly recommend not getting involved in this type of programme your boss is organising and quite frankly would suggest that you start looking for a new job if you are the only one who is against going Sonnie, I don't agree with you. I think his boss should try to find another occupation. But he already has selling Landmark! If I was to do that in my working
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16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteMaggieI think labelling it 'Business Development' is only a way for LE to cash in on corporations. It's all the same: it exists to resell itself. Tell that to your boss and let us know about his reaction!!! You should be entitled to your own opinion. If not, please explain what happened to the first amendment? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishmen
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Does anybody know if the Leadership Training program offered by LEBD is identical to the Forum? My guess is that it is. Only the packaging/advertising is different. It is very easy to make claims. Anybody can do that. And to come up with an exaustive list of "clients" simply by listing the occupation of satisfied (influenced) participants in position of power in companies who have
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotehype2120 while you make a very good point, my clients are -- well let's just say -- my profession does not have a governing body nor code of ethics! and while i swear so much of what i do puts me into a posistion like a therapist -- that is not my job function. and maybe i made it sound too intense...i never felt any pressure from her. i just found it quite amusing that she was
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuotenifferI really love my job, however my boss is a Forum Graduate and is pushing for the entire management team to attend. I just completely disagree that it belongs in the workplace and I've said I did not want to go. He said it's "professional development" and Nike and Microsoft have brought LE in to do programs with their teams. Now I'm dubbed 'not a t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
Quotehype2120My Landmark roommate offered me cash to sit in on a Landmark introduction at my own house + $50 for any person I could get to come. As much as I can use the money -- and I, myself, could probably sit there and keep my mouth shut for the 2+ hours -- but to ask my friends and clients -- and tell them it is a personal development seminar when I know it's Landmark. I can'
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteYZFR1However i base my opinions on my experience having gone through the course. Not on other peoples views. This only confirms my first post: - a switch from exaltation of “reason” to an appreciation of “feeling, emotion and experience” (this is why Landmarkian will insist you MUST “experience” the Forum for example and that you cannot understand by “reason” only) This is typically
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuoteYZFR1 Im a well educated person who holds a senior role in a global company and having attended many motivational/educational and business related course throughout my year's, i believe can evaluate this course with a non-bias opinion. The fact that you are educated doesn't mean you know enough about Landmark to make an unbiased judgment, especially after having been influenced
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16 years ago
midonov123
This is the answer I gave to the "pesky ego" letter I got (see my post above). I don't expect any reply from that person, and again, our positions are irreconciliable. So, my answer is as follows: Quote"I find the concept of authenticity very elusive. How can someone be authentic when under the influence of a group like Landmark? In my view, this is in blatant contrad
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16 years ago
midonov123
Quotekittypaw This brought to mind a Landmark friend who has a good sense of humor. I kept referring to Landmark as a 'cult' and she got pissed. Finally she began referring to her Landmark friends as a cult members as a joke- "admitting" she was wrong so I'd feel like we were on the same side and I could "trust" her judgment again. My ex-girlfriend from Landm
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
I got this letter from a Landmark graduate. It's short, but I find it very loaded. I can see clearly how irreconciliable that person has become to non-Landmarkians. Can anybody make any sense of it? Quote"I've spent years on self development studies and do my best to coach others on authenticity. Everything else isn't real! However, reaching one's core is not as eas
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
QuotesunThey begin with the disclaimer, "This is not the truth," and proceed to "coach" you as if what they are telling you is in fact the truth. When someone went against what the "coach" said, she replied, "Remember, this is not the truth." This is a deliberate attempt to confuse your mind and place you in a paradoxal situation with an invalid system
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
midonov123
I’ve been reading a lot about New Age recently. It has become clear to me that Landmark and other self-development programs offer what has been referred to as a “paradigm shift” in peoples life. Of course this is not new. But I understand much better now. The term paradigm shift was made popular by the American historian of science Thomas Khun, and he defines it as a transformation of “the
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16 years ago
midonov123
Quotelhebert More details of his disappearance can be seen on this website: click on James Rowe thread The link is dead but information about James Rowe's disapearance can be found here: It is said he had been in an empowerment seminar (i.e. Landmark) and he was never seen again. Another sad day for all Landmark victims! How many more causualties do we need?
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