QuoteNancy Drew those Sterling jerks just don't get it. They're like adult babies, the schoolyard bullies who have lost their potency in the real world so have to create an artificial world where they can control everyone there... Bingo! That's it exactly, whether it's Sterling, Scientology, or any of the other "empowerment" programs. They are all in the busi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteJaredDCSo, a couple of friends of mine have really suggested that I try out the Landmark Forum. I've heard alot of what they say they can do and it sounds appealing- for instance how they can really improve your sense of self confidence. On a good day, that's just sales training -- better gotten someplace like Dale Carnegie. On a not-so-good day, it's training on how to m
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuotecaligariTraditionally those honestly practicing a method like magic have exposed charlatans. At the end of his career, Houdini focused on exposing mediums, . Recently Penn & Teller have exposed fake spiritualists on their Showtime program, "Bullshit!", . It would be nice to have knowledgeable hypnotists exposing Landmark's use of hypnosis. There was
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuotecorboyElena I want to send you a PM, but your 'sent' file is full so Ive not been able to do it. Corboy I emptied almost everything out but I still can't get any messages and it says my box is full. I sent you another email address. E
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Quotecaligari I'm surprised that hynosis isn't brought up more in discussing Landmark and it's methods, particularly in journalistic articles. It's possible to discount brainwashing since it's a term that loosely used and often not exact. It's original meaning was though reform through physically coerced methods like the North Korean origins. This can be contested
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Quoteskeptic Ellen, I guess you're saying that IF one can see the truth the CON is no longer working. The nature of a successful con is that it does not look like a con. I see what you're saying. There have been long term victims who have written about a separate or parallel "self," awareness, or consciousness hidden away from the cult "self" that quietly
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteBlue PillQuoteZorro Scary Hey? I sent this book to a few Lekkies to see if it would shake the programming - no joy. It seems that past a certain point the brainwashing is irreversible. You bet'cha! It is scary how these amateur, uneducated, and pretentious wankers can dig into the basement of people's personalities and re-set the foundation with dangerous and deadly mis
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteZorro Very well put Ellen you pretty much summed up what happens to a person in Landmark when looking back at the experience and now in my case from the outside. I can identify exactly what your talking about. I am so very sorry this has happened to you Zorro. I blame myself and all the other people who should have fought harder and been more persistent in getting the word out begin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteZorroI found it an interesting take on things. If you want to see something really good go back to the site and check out the BBC documentary on Scientology. I now think of Scientologist as a freaking Goon Squad. If they don't like someone they just outright try to destroy them. Has Landmark ever tried to destroy a person, other than in Litigation? I am curious to know, since Weener
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Perhaps it was based on this excellent series of articles from the Washington Post in 1997? Ellen
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

That's it, by golly! Good work ON2 LF. My search didn't turn it up. Ellen
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Just saw a hilarious commercial on CNN. Someone at American Airlines must have been persuaded to attend one of these silly seminars and his take on the situation was to ~create~ a laugh-out-loud parody of a hapless participant looking for the nearest telephone to book his early flight out, making his escape on American Airlines, of course. It's a hoot with the "trust" exercise, t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I wonder if this Vancouver Bulletin Board that was posted to another thread has gotten them stirred up. (I find it telling that someone uses the possessive in reference to the Forum. Could be just a translation error but Landmarkers are encouraged to personalize "their" experience and "their" Forum. It's just another mind control trick involving identity and br
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Anyone besides me smell something fishy about this post? Ellen
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteAnti-Forum GalI wonder if the following is true? (it's from that message board that I linked to here earlier): A former acquaintance who's become heavily involved with Landmark confided in a few of us that Landmark intends to "take over Vancouver" (which is second only to NYC in "enrollments"). This must be part of their schtick. If it's not a tow
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Yep... Sure enough. I heard a jarring phrase uttered by Queen Noor of Jordan in an interview recently -- something about "showing up in one's life" or "how something shows up for one" or something similar. I filed it away, thinking maybe she was affecting the speech of someone else or mistakenly picked up this phrase somewhere. But guess what: pull up her name
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I had to go to the Wayback Machine to get this from the Ripoff Report, which I can't pull up on my computer. I'm sure "Anne" wouldn't mind me reprinting it here. She pretty much sums it up: Landmark Education Forum MIND CONTROL - SCAM Madison Wisconsin landmarkeducation.com Madison, Wisconsin, U.S.A. Submitted: 10/5/2007 11:29:02 PM Modified: 10/5/2007 11:29:0
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Dude's psycho. E
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteZorroMartinH, What were they saying about Mother Teresa's work? I don't recall much if anything. Now at the Center where I took Landmark they were always referring to Ghandi and his great work. They seemed to be really into the whole passive resistance thing....mainly getting people to be passive. Which I can only see two things from it. Passive to the state that a person
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteexImpact GOD AWFUL. I honestly feel if you are dumb or crazy enough to look at one of those billboards and use that as your sole motivation for doing the trainings, you deserve everything you get. :roll: Are they running that "Truth Restored" campaign in Utah? We get commercials where I live with a lot of confused, wistful people pondering "eternal marriage&
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteJack Oskar Larm However, it still amazes me how many employers encourage and coerce their employees to attend these forums. And 'graduates' just love to justify their allegiance by bragging about all the good that LEC offers to organisations (the police force, etc). More than anything else, cults are about manufacturing robots. They need lots and lots of free or cheap la
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuotekarenbThis is slightly offtopic but it's something I've been chewing on for a long time. I grew up in San Francisco. I was a child there in the 80s. Reading this board has alllowed me to put together the last pieces of why everything was so weird. Most people are familiar with the dynamics of a dysfunctional family when alcohol or drugs are impeding the parents' abilitie
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

Quoteavc123I read many of these posts, and ones similar to these after the first night that I attended the Basic Seminar. I almost backed out, but ultimately I am really glad I didn't. And a close friend just got back from PSI7 and filled me in on her experience. Which was also great. First I want to address some mistakes that I have read here and in other posts. "They don't
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteRswinters1 Please follow the rules that are posted... I copied this from a posting from Rick. This is a theoligical matter that is best not discussed on this forum... Remember theology has two sides and both need to be dropped. Thank you. Hey RS, Did you read my post about serotonin? Ellen
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteSaneAgainWell, well, well. Dig, and what pops up? Scientology. Pat Grove is a "clear". LOLOLOL.... No surprises here! Good find, SaneAgain. These birds of a feather sure do flock together. ~Clear~ and ~complete~ are pulled right out of L. Ron Hubbard's rotting brain. Ellen
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteRswinters It has been a pleasure knowing you all. Have a nice life and may God richly bless each and everyone of you. Ummmm.... Thanks, I guess. But no thanks, really. No thanks not as a brush-off but as something considered and considerate of others who feel a little strange when someone invites the blessing of some deity they may or may not recognize. Think about it -- are yo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I cannot tell from the website if Insight in South Africa is related to John-Roger's Insight (MSIA) LGAT. Since there is no mention of John- Roger that I see, maybe it's a different cult. Anyone know? Ellen
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteThe Shadow And specifically I STILL don't know which LGAT programme Mauxi participated in, and I am just curious about his shyness about giving us the name...IF it was/is so wonderful for him, why does he not want to devulge the name of the programme? Just Curious, "Shad" I had a look back and this is how Maxui titled his first post which is where I got the
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteMaxui a·buse /v. əˈbyuz; n. əˈbyus/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; Your comment is abusive in and of itself. There's a big difference between what I say here and what cults DO. Here's a hint: I'm no
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteThe Shadow Anyway, this is what I think: She is not listening because she has been brainwashed. She is not listening because while her ears hear what I am saying her brian is not assimilating what I am saying. And I believe this is happening because the neurotransmitters have been interfered with. Her normal/natural way of hearing has been altered. I know this because when I worke
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"