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14 years ago
The Anticult
Well, well well. As one peruses the reading list of the "mysterious Dr" Alex Benzer, it points to the usual suspects in hypnotic NLP persuasion, who's techniques can clearly be seen in the writing, top to bottom. Including Persuasion Engineering. These are the exact same persuasion techniques used by James Arthur Ray, and Byron Katie as well as Michael Beckwith, and many othe
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nooneofanyimportence
QuoteSaddenedWhen King Saul chased David across half the middle east, David refrained from mocking and, when presented with the opportunity, taking the life of King Saul. He continually tried to extend a hand in peace and reconciliation. We all disagree with the Mike Villamor and the Elders at TPC. We disagree with their teachings, their retaliation against our dear sister in Christ when she r
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
tsukimoto
Quotequiet oneNichijew, Those quotes from President Ikeda are indeed disturbing. A few weeks ago I was watching the History Channel. The show was about Nazi Germany and the rise and fall of Hitler. Perhaps SGI shouldn't be compared to such a horrific event as the rise of Nazism, but when I watched it I saw many parallels. I saw parallels between the fanatical German members and the mem
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
14 years ago
My Good Name
QuotedaddylonglegsI kept being drawn back to is that JH himself never actually claimed to be a prophet, or the Messiah, as many cult leaders do. He claimed to be a descendant of Jesus, but claimed there were many out there. He did actually. I was there when one of his "prophecies" was read by Gary and he claimed to be the reincarnation of Jacob and Abraham Abulafia.
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
14 years ago
Nichijew
The Following is a summary of the October SGI USA national leader's meeting: "When You Lose You Actually Win." HOW FORTUNATE I AM TO HAVE A MENTOR LIKE THIS. Tariq Hassan: We just got back from Japan receiving guidance and meeting Sensei. Though it was a hard time with the loss of the LDP and Komeito, Sensei was in high spirits. He gave us tremendous guidance, "
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
14 years ago
BraveHeart
Here is a perfect example of how people at Radiant Life Cult take a verse out of context to give them selves a license to keep on pushing there agenda with out taking any responsibility for the people they abuse along the way. The absurdity and arrogance that these cult leaders have is absolutely repulsive. QuoteGreg HuthWednesday, September 30, 2009 Genuine... Don't look for perfect pe
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
TurningPointReject
For all this talk of prosperity theology... I think there is some wisdom in studying the Old Testament regarding the Altar of Baal and the Asherah Poles (along with pagan worship). These were pagan symbols for nothing other than "prosperity" and "progress". Is TPc worshiping at the altar of Baal and and dancing around the Asherah pole as the Israelites did during the
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
buddy
TPWOC sermon for Sunday Aug. 30th How Mike Villamor can gain his promised land is now online at TPWOC home web site. Mikes promised land is waiting for him,Mike is licking his chops over it! Mike believes that it is Gods will that we all experience prosperity. All you have to do is believe in the Abraham Covenant just like all the rest of the false word-faith prosperity teachers.Mike wants to mov
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
buddy
TPWOC sermon for Sunday Aug.2 Breaking Point: The Seed of Greatness by false apostle Mike Villamor is now online at TPWOC home web site. Mikes favorite word is prosper, but now it is the word; Crisis. Mike is having a crisis and he wants you to have one too! Mike used the word crisis 134 times in his sermon. I believe He said he had a meeting with his deacons and God told him to give this messa
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
DebbieAnn
RRmoderator: How does Pastor Murray see the jews? Well, I think you would have to ask him that question. As for myself I see them as being descendants of Judah; God's children, just like everyone else is. They were a part of and descended from the 12 tribes of Israel . They were the decendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob whom God renamed, Israel, in Genesis 32:28. I see them as a pe
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
zeuszor
Today I come writing with a story to tell all of you, a story about The Man Who Thought That He Was Dead. This man firmly believed he was dead, even though he was a living, normally–functioning human being. Well, his wife persuaded him to visit a psychiatrist, who tried in vain to convince him that he was in fact alive. Who wants to be married to a dead guy? The wife argued. The psychiatris
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Saddened
So Walter Martin are you saying: Walter Martins Warning to the Church (1988) This message is not for the faint hearted, it is not a message of comfort for those who live in false teaching or protect teachers (these are excerpts from Walter Martin’s message). [Background- Kenneth Copeland claims that Jesus said in conversation with Copeland that he never claimed to be God he only claimed
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
Under Much Grace
Hello everyone, I've spent the last two years communicating the "anti-cult" message within evangelical Christian communities, specifically addressing a hybrid spin-off group from the Shepherding Discipleship Movement and Extremes of Christian Reconstruction about a decade after getting out of one. After exit counsel from a person that Dr. Paul Martin called "one of the bes
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
elena
I wonder how much of this they learned from the corporate cults: The New York Times May 17, 2009 What Does Your Credit-Card Company Know About You? By CHARLES DUHIGG Rudy Santana’s day began recently, as almost all his working days begin, with a name on a screen. The name that April morning belonged to a Massachusetts man in his mid-30s. He owed money on a credit card and a sec
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
14 years ago
buddy
TPWOC sermon for May 17th Great Faith part 4 by Pastor Mike Villamor is now on line at TPWOC web site. Fear ,fear ,fear ,fear ,fear. I believe Pastor Mike is afraid of what is happening at TPWOC and is trying to control the complaining and grumbling from the people who don't like the idea of Mike turning TPWOC into a false word- faith prosperity church. I believe Pastor Mike is using fear as
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
Daughter of Dorcas
Hi tpcwocattender, A quick Google search came up with pages of information. Word of Faith Error By John C. Orlando, Jr. Intro If you were to poll Christians and ask them whether or not they believed that God was sovereign, I am quite sure that the overwhelming majority would reply with a resounding “Amen!” However, when we begin to explore what is meant by the word “sovereignty,”
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
Miki
Dear TPC Attender, One way for Mike and Cyndi to "keep" the church GOD GIFTED to them is repentance and apologies to the many people and families they hurt. A good start would be the Schoons! Luke 3: 8-9 "Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, "We have Abraham as our father." For I tell you that out of these stones God can
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
Daughter of Dorcas
I have heard teachings that Terah, Abraham's father, was offered the same deal from God as the one he made to Abraham. Unfortunately for Terah, he didn't take God up on the offer. When God told Abraham to packup and move to a land that he would show him, Abraham went. So I found this answer to women Pastors, and I agree it is the best I ever heard. Does the Bible speak of women pa
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
corboy
See if Esalen could also have been a point of contact. I think Michael Murphy was deeply involved with that. Gestalt was taught there by Perls. People from Zen Center were there--including quite honorable teachers, such as Kobun Chino. A lot of people networked with each other via Esalen in the 1970s. I think Bateson was on faculty or in residence at UC-Santa Cruz. And he died fro
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
Guess Who
Thank you Braveheart for posting the bylaws like you have. When you compare you can easily see the changes. Two overall themes seem to come through. First that an "overseer" was added to the new bylaws. Very in line with many other cult groups. Secondly the private and public accusations that the previous elders did things illegally in reference to the bylaws is simply preposterous
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
Emma C
I am my own Buddha, Abraham, Jesus, Guru Nanak and Mohammed (just to piss the DW groupies off). Just as long as I am not my own Ole Nydahl :p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
corboy
(Whew. Feel free to go take a break, do whatever you want. This is RR.com, not an LGAT). Okay....more classics, from JJ. Duelling drummer 'Ralpher' accused JJ of giving us too many details by having printed that last post. JJ replies: Quotewanted to ignore ralpher, but I seem to have gotten stuck on trying to make any sense at all of his erratic post. I think he's say
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
BraveHeart
OK here is the spin I keep hearing from the dwindling few who are trying to defend Tony and his crazy teachings. The spin is coming from people at Radiant Life and people at Turning Point church in Washington. It is this classic blame shifting saying that "other people took his good teachings and perverted it" well frankly I am getting so tired of hearing this lame excuse and I would li
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
buddy
I have found false word/faith, name it claim it, positive confession prosperity teaching on TPWOC web site : Go to resoures, then click Market place Ministry: The Leader of Market place Ministry at TPWOC is pastor? Ken Ralston (www.myspace/ken ralston) new friends list famous false teachers E.W. Kenyon, Creflo Dollar, etc. This is classic word/faith, name it claim it , positive confession, false
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
Tamar
Introduction: Who wrote this and who is it written for? This is a "Beginners Guide" to the Brahma Kumaris. A simple, plain English but comprehensive introduction to the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University; its beliefs, lifestyle and mode of operation. Everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask, in neat bite sized pieces without the requirement of specialist knowl
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
Tamar
Introduction: Who wrote this and who is it written for? This is a "Beginners Guide" to the Brahma Kumaris. A simple, plain English but comprehensive introduction to the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University; its beliefs, lifestyle and mode of operation. Everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask, in neat bite sized pieces without the requirement of specialist knowl
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
Guess Who
"It is often argued that we should stay in the midst of churches and bodies whose sins and follies we deplore, in the hope of saving them for God and mankind. Such reasoning has a good deal of force in the first stages of decline. A strong protest may arrest error and stop the gangrene. But as time advances, and the whole body becomes diseased; when the protests have been disregarded, and th
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
M&M
Dear Learning Point, thanks for joining in. Your perspective is really helpful. I would like to address this primarily to all the elders at TP. Others please feel free to read and correct me if I am mistaken in any particular. This is directed to not just Mike and Cyndi but to all the elders and pastors. Someone mentioned to me the other day the new practice of taking offerings at TP. I wo
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteEZE3.17Question du jour: Can anyone verify that the following parable/prophecy is indeed circulating within the Inner Circle? RLC is like a tree. The roots are Jesus. The Apostle is the trunk. The members are the branches. The bad branches are leaving the church, leaving the good branches. Once all the bad branches are pruned off and all that remain are good branches, RLC is des
Forum: Destructive Churches
15 years ago
PeaceBStill
Facts? Hummm ... and with all due respect, were I to be so bold as to name names, you would clearly be eating your words, for such as the county tax appraisor clearly lists such proofs of the numerous properties owned by a local megachurch CC pastor, who has the mass majority of the congregation believe that he had to borrow money from his father-in-law in order to afford his lowly $200,000 hou
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