To the Forum: Thieme quote 1973 "Blood of Christ" QuoteWhen Christ said, "It is finished," salvation was completed on the cross. Since Jesus Christ was still alive when He spoke these words, even the casual student of the Scripture will note that salvation was completed BEFORE the physical death of Christ occurred, and that most of the literal blood of Christ which was lo
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Quoteapostate I joined the JC's because they were going in the same direction I was. I was interested in their free work programs because I saw that as meeting ideals I believed in. I was not aware of ALL their beliefs when I joined as that would have entailed too much effort. I liked the camaradarie that was represented within the group and enjoyed the appeal to my ego their beliefs th
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QuotematildaQuoteDid you 'join' the JC's? Were you aware of all their beliefs before you gave up all your ambitions and dreams to become a member? OR were you unwittingly seduced and recruited by a glib conman who persuaded you that your entire family were your worst enemies and that the world would hate you because of your commitment? I joined the JC's because they were go
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Thanks Goog, "You can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time; but you can’t fool all the people all the time". -Abraham Lincoln
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteHappyAndFreeGeneZ and Brainout, Truthtesty is as qualified as you. He brings a lot of insight into this forum, and I appreciate his posts. Of course you agree with his posts! You naturally agree with him. He is like a union leader gathering together malcontents on a job, to form a union to fight the boss they are envious of. So what? Rebel leaders always find those willing to
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Oprah's ugly secret By continuing to hawk "The Secret," a mishmash of offensive self-help cliches, Oprah Winfrey is squandering her goodwill and influence, and preaching to the world that mammon is queen. By Peter Birkenhead Mar. 05, 2007 | Steve Martin used to do a routine that went like this: "You too can be a millionaire! It's easy: First, get a million doll
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Hello Happy and Free, to address Posted: 02-25-2007 10:55 AM A couple of verses should help you in realizing our faith comes from what we have learned not from just blind suppositions and worldly machinations. Lets start with 1 Corinthians 2:10-16 Verse 10 God reveals himself and his teaching by the Spirit. Verse 11 We cannot know the things of God without the aid of the Spirit. Verse 1
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Hello Happy and Free, to address 02-24-2007 09:40 AM I gather you are a Gospels only/Gospels have a higher authority believer from: QuoteMatthew 7:6-- So you do read the gospels. You've actually read the words of Jesus, God in the flesh. Amazing. To speak to you with the Word, I must address the Issue of Jesus Only/Gospels only. In the Gospels from the Word of Jesus, He sends out
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QuoteBringing forth the voice of Abraham as she sat on a buttery leather seat in her motor home, speaking of herself in the third person, she said, “Esther’s concern is that they will destroy this information because they do not really know it.” an angle most people wouldn't dream of...feigning dissociative and or multiple personality disorder to give the snakeoil a more authentic/appeal
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QuoteGalibanFaith (study of doctrine, remember Faith is not believing in something we do not understand but that which we have studied and come to know) Galiban, here you prove that you have chewed up and swallowed a misguided scriptural interpretation made by RB Thieme JR. And you're now trying to feed this to others. Scripture does not teach that faith is as you wrote "believin
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Greetings, Galiban, and welcome to the discussion. First of all, let me address the following statement: The bible had one author. That is God the Holy Spirit. Every passage is divinely inspired. The men who penned it were the instruments used by God. You CAN NOT say that one verse has no bearing on another. We know that the entire Bible is divinely inspired, Galiban (the theologian), but t
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QuoteandycheeI was taught that the guys who formed the constitution were christians, and that now people say they weren't because they want to write God out of our lives. Maybe it's not right to say you have to be christain, but don't we say One Nation under God? What kind of a coun try would we be if there were athiests in charge of us? How would you make any body obey the law i
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As I mentioned in my first post, I think the focus should be on what fuels racism. In my opinion, racism stems from what we’ve been taught from childhood and then reinforced by events that we see taking place all around us as we grow up in this country. That being said, I don’t feel that we should place the blame on the way we were raised, though. The fact is that each person has an option to eit
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I want to post just a few more "bits" of information, and links, that might lead one to, at the very least, think that there is something more going on with Bnei Baruch, and the Bleep film in question. I mean, you really do get the impression that BB LIKES THIS MOVIE, and that they took all possible advantage of the supposed connection between its "truth" and kabbalah's
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Whew! Thanks to person who posted the news clip about Mafu/Penny Torres /Amagi. It curled my straight hair.Charging admission to these events is insane. When was the last time a church required money before entering? I have noticed that members of this group separate the person from the guru and from the channeler. This makes about as much sense as a schizophrenic thinking that they are Abrah
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From their site: QuoteThe Roots of AsiaWorks All of the AsiaWorks trainings are firmly rooted in the research and discoveries of Abraham Maslow, the famous American educator, writer, and psychologist. Maslow was among the first to define and clarify those characteristics that distinguish men and women who achieve extraordinary results from "ordinary" people. Did I read that correctl
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The following is my testimony about how NCCG (New Covenant Church of God / Mishpachah Lev-Tsiyon / B'rit Chadashah Assembly of Yahweh) and its leader, Christopher C. Warren, almost cost me my life. I am to understand there was a misunderstanding earlier and the account got deleted or just turned up missing, but it has been resolved by the administrator. My only desire is to share this knowle
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

The feeling I get when I first think of Muslim (in all honesty) is the same feeling I get when I think of the Dallas Cowboys (I'm a 49ers fan). Does that make any sense? If I thought about it a bit more, actually, if we go as far back to the time of Abraham, then Islam could possibly considered the first cult (emphasizing the word "could", and adding that this was stated wit
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Scholars Scrutinize the Koran's Origin A Promise of Moist Virgins or Dried Fruit? New York Times (and International Herald Tribune), March 4, 2002 Scholars Are Quietly Offering New Theories of the Koran By ALEXANDER STILLE To Muslims the Koran is the very word of God, who spoke through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad: "This book is not to be doubted," the Koran decl
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If you can make two hours available next week... I'll let you hear something no one else in the entire business world has ever experienced--with the exception of 500 very fortunate entrepreneurs. But--first, I need to tell you a quick (true) story... I paid famed marketing genius, Jay Abraham, $580,000 for his highly-prized and extremely specialized business information. It took Jay a mer
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QuoteFirst: "Hey, by the way. I just got enlightened yesterday." And the other person would say, "Yeah, right, sure. Does it pay anything?" - I hope you can hear the humour here. Of course. I was indicating the fact that he is stating that he became enlightened; realizing the context in which it was stated does not change the fact of his comment. QuoteFurther: I clearly rea
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QuoteYteepOne of the earlier threads, an author brought up the secular anti-cult revolt. I did some researching and I found that the passage quoted was taken from "The Urantia Book", a book for humans supposedly channeled from aliens! When I had first became aware of this subject, I thought that there were normal people who seriously believe secularism is a threat, but now I see th
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I am a former member of the Fellowship of God's Covenant People in Kentucky. I can assure you that they are NOT a hate group. They should not be classified as a hate group just because they believe the Angle Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and Teutonic and kindred peoples are the Israel of the Old Testament. Do people consider modern day Jews a hate group? They claim the same thing. The
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The Church of God of the Abrahamic Faith (COGAF) is a religious group that is closely linked with the Christadelphians. The group first came into existence in the 1860's, when fourteen "obedient ones," as they termed themselves, established a congregation in Cleveland, Ohio. This initial body of believers came into existence under the leadership of Mark Allen, originally from Wobu
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QuoteScientology not telling you about its doctrinal belief in space aliens, body thetans and Xenu from the beginning is something like Jews forgetting to talk about Abraham or Moses. Or, Christians neglecting to tell you about the virgin birth. I understand why you think that but I disagree because Scientology isn't based on faith at all. It's based on a set of procedures that you c
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durham: Scientology not telling you about its doctrinal belief in space aliens, body thetans and Xenu from the beginning is something like Jews forgetting to talk about Abraham or Moses. Or, Christians neglecting to tell you about the virgin birth. Xenu is probably not told to newbies for two reasons. 1. Scientology would lose quite a few recruits, because they would think it's not
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Christianity vs. Judaism It's very true that Christianity and Judaism diverged a long time ago. It's also probably true that Jesus would hardly recognize Christianity today because as far as I could tell Brother J(as my favorite singing Rabbi, Shlomo Carlebach, used to call him) used to keep the basics at least of the Tenach (Torah, Prophets, and writings). He seemed to get into arg
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QuoterrmoderatorMoishe3rd: You sound like something like a "cult hopper." Are you now with the Chabad Lubavitch or some other Chasidic sect? :lol: No. :lol: Although, some of my best friends are Chasidic... I'm with a sect that started out with Avraham Avinu - you may know him as Abraham, and went on to formulate its more solid rules and regulations under a fellow know
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Hi everyone, I am finally beginning to see why a friend of mine has been so down on Tony Robbins' rap. I have been a member of the Anthony Robbins Online Community, since 2003. Today an Anthony Robbins "immoderator" went so far as to remove my completely iniquitous "Stanford University and Owning Your Financial Life" thread posted , under our General Discussions
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Has anyone who has posted on this thread ever read any books of Zachiriah Sitchin? He helped to decode the Sumerian language. They were highly advanced, but said it was all told to them by an external group; that they the Sumerians, had just written down what they were told. Abraham was a Sumerian from the city of UR. His father was Tehran. ZS has written about 12 books; I would start with
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