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9 years ago
treefern
QuotelifetruetomeIf Serge is a true master and is pure love, I ask one question. Why does this forum bother him?. Would he not feel just feel love and compassion for us? Or is this not how UM works? Please excuse my ignorance as I always assumed a true enlightened being doesn't worry about what anyone else is thinking of them as they know who they really are and the truth of that. This is
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9 years ago
treefern
COncerned Partner I'm awestruck by your beautiful message. You have put words to our thoughts and shown an insight that is both kind and loving but also very compassionate, thank you. I know that Serge offers in some part what we all crave, kindness, gentleness and loving relationships, who wouldn't be attracted to that in our lives? However the price the UM devotees pay, not only
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9 years ago
treefern
This site, the regular, loving, kind and intelligent bloggers who have for quite some time now been trying to get honest answers as to why their 'loved'......I repeat 'loved' ones (yes rebecca we do know love) have turned into what appears from our perspective to be very unloving, judgemental people, shadows of their former selves in every way. I am very happy to also welc
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
Goodness gracious me, as a woman with 46 years of periods under her belt for the life of me I can't work out why on Gods good earth anyone would want to talk about such a boring subject, let alone pay to hear about it? I loved their purpose (periods)but didn't enjoy the years of a giant wad of cotton between my legs, never used a tampon wish I had now in light of some things Serge said!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
I just love and commend the courage of the people who use this site to make changes for the GOOD of others without any financial gain, we wll make a difference that is a certain. Frodobaggins, regarding your last post and the rip-offs made by the claims on the cards and pillowcases. For all of those who haven't heard of Chinese Tangrams look them up, they are a set of seven geometrical sh
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
To timcoop1 it is now my turn to apologize to you, I am very sorry for sounding agressive or disbelieving your sincerity, please accept my apology. I'm afraid the thread we all share through our connection with Serge Benhayon and UM is WE have been bullied, we have our partners comparing us with the glorious Serge which is REALLY funny because it's Serge that keeps telling them just
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
Corboy, thank you for your persistance and explanation on the use of the site. I did not delete the messages from the 'Brisbane truckdriver' and will indeed send them on to Rick Ross. I need to hear the whole story, we think we can handle these things ourselves but you are right a higher power needs to be responsible for worms.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
Thank you all so very much, I appreciate your support more than I can ever say! My husband is dealing with the posts, I don't feel they have been threatening just very intrusive and personal by somebody who has never posted anything on the site, that is the strange thing and yes Corboy you are right, I have no idea what-so-ever of the identity of the "truck driver from Brisbane".
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
HerbertKane178 thank you for your thoughts and good wishes. I only told my story to highlight the very dangerous practises of UM and more importantly Serge Benhayon and every time I read/hear/talk about or encounter one of his new money making ventures I tell the other side of the story. COncerned Partner, a few answers to your queries and a bit more information: No not at any time did the p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
Ah music food of the soul, I just think UM music is pretty poor and really hard to listen to. Since I joined this blog site and have been supported, gratefully by many unknown 'friends' I have only concentrated on the affect UM and Serge has had on my relationship with my husband. I have recieved several suspect personal emails which I feel may be a set-up, this does not include pers
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9 years ago
treefern
QuoteMacReadyAnother site questioning UM goes down. Andrea Cione's blog has been removed: Tut...tut, Serge. What ever happened to transparency? Every time I have an opportunity to recommend this site I do and with "gusto' for it has been this site and this site alone that gave my husband the honest information he needed to hear, to be able to think clearly and remove himself
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9 years ago
treefern
QuoteEric DobbsTell me someone, is the adjective of Sham - balla , Sham -bollic or is serge benhayon and clan heading towards Jonestown. I hope n ot but it's going in that direction and I fear for the innocents caught up in this delusion. Yours Seriously -Eric I can understand your fears Eric and I sincerly hope not. My feeling is when the heat gets too hot for Serge to handle, he will
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9 years ago
treefern
I have a few questions, I was wondering if anyone could help me solve? Has anyone heard of someone coming forward to speak publicy, of being healed or even helped with a terminal medical condition by Serge or UM? I would think that Serge would have dozens if not hundreds of people wanting to tell the world about the miracle that occured when they paid huge amounts of money to UM for their healt
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
There certainly appears to be a rumbling within the ranks. I have been talking 'gently' to some UM escapees, firstly the main concern was just how much influence Serge seems to have on partners leaving long term relationships, in search of 'real love' and to quote one woman, she realized "Serge was a very good business man, knew how to form a family empire and after mont
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
Hi lifetruetome, I don't think you sound honestly serious about helping your 'friend' out of UM. We on this site are supporting each other with a common problem and I for one and by the sounds of all the other partners/friends or family members are genuinely trying to help the people we love come to term with 'being taken for a very expensive ride'. Why would YOU
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9 years ago
treefern
COncerned partner, you must have a lot of spare time on your hands to even read Serges drivell, but thank you for doing it, I had the best laugh and still can't see the screen for the tears of LAUGHTER running down my cheeks. I will be showing it to all family and friends who have been involved, I know they too wil enjoy it thouroughly. My son keeps saying some really clever person is going
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9 years ago
treefern
It has been easy for me to talk about the diet, the crazy UM ideas the pranic energies and being possessed that my husband unwelcomingly brought into our home, what hasn't been easy to talk about publicly has been our sex life. I've been thanked by the male partners who have been able to see that some non-believer women partners have experienced similar problems with their Um partner d
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9 years ago
treefern
I would like to say to MacReady and his last wonderful message to UM members and to the informative information given by Corboy, thank you. All honest REAL words written are for the good and welfare of people and Not for the ego and financial gain of the Benhayon family. Yesterday my husband thanked me for introducing him to this site, for 'hanging-in there with him', during what has b
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9 years ago
treefern
Wow, thank you Corboy for the diet info, I'm afraid my husband ticked quite a lot of the boxes on your list. The information has been very helpful to me. He is introducing some of the healthy foods little by little back into his diet, he looks, acts and is beginning to sound his old self. I am feeling like I can start breathing myself again and find we are even laughing together, being spon
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
I don't think for one minute Gibbs is Serge Benhayon. Gibbs writes way too eloquently to be Serge!
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9 years ago
treefern
QuotecorboyThe use of italics in both black and red font is confusing. Very confusing. Which is why I agree with treefern. Enough is enough. Am eager to learn yet more about the food behaviors, especially as treeferm reports that SB gives changing directives as to the diet--surely a way to keep anyone anxious who takes such stuff seriously. If we can get a rounded and detailed pictur
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
So true Gibbs. Unfortunately at some point however enough becomes enough.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
treefern
About the food questionaire. My experience was that when my husband gave me the list of 'pranic' foods I wondered just what he could actually eat without feeling guilty. His weight loss was huge and seemingly overnight. The saddest day for me wasn't seeing his tired and drawn face, or the fact that friends were asking if he was ill he looked so grey and gaunt, it was when our dau
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9 years ago
treefern
Yet another Thank You this time to Corboy, I'm afraid I'm not very good with computers, it was very kind of you to pass on my message. I can only hope my message may help others to keep believing that 'good will prevail over evil', or at the very least, good will prevail over very unloving, greedy men who prey on ill, lonely and frightened people, like Serge Benhayon does so
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9 years ago
treefern
To all of the contributors, I thank you. My partner was introduced to UM and Serge Benhayon several years ago by a work colleague and to put it mildly my life and that of our familiy, changed without our consent or desire for the very worst! The overnight change of diet, sleeping pattern, level of intimacy (continually asking permission to touch) lectures on being held by dark pranic energies,
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