Tell me someone, is the adjective of Sham - balla , Sham -bollic or is serge benhayon and clan heading towards Jonestown. I hope not but it's going in that direction and I fear for the innocents caught up in this delusion. Yours Seriously -Eric

I have a few questions, I was wondering if anyone could help me solve?
Has anyone heard of someone coming forward to speak publicy, of being healed or even helped with a terminal medical condition by Serge or UM?
I would think that Serge would have dozens if not hundreds of people wanting to tell the world about the miracle that occured when they paid huge amounts of money to UM for their health to improve. I for one would be shouting form the highest hills to anybody who would listen, IF I had been 'cured'. All we have seen so far is a devotee talking about how well she felt after 'giving up sugar', not really worthy of a National television program. If that's the best Serge has it is pretty pathetic given the millions he is pocketing out of Universal MEDICINE.
Also for all the people who have left their partner to have a more "gentle, kind and loving life" with a partner who "makes love to you and just doesn't have sex" has anyone heard that this life has yet been found?
I see a lot of really lonely, skinny people going to expensive retreats coming home to cold and empty houses.
I have noticed how the home page for UM keeps adding lines....free to choose.
Yes Serge people are on to you and the 'TRUTH-NESS' (sorry I couldn't help myself) is closing in, fast!

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Eric Dobbs
Tell me someone, is the adjective of Sham - balla , Sham -bollic or is serge benhayon and clan heading towards Jonestown. I hope n
ot but it's going in that direction and I fear for the innocents caught up in this delusion. Yours Seriously -Eric

I can understand your fears Eric and I sincerly hope not.
My feeling is when the heat gets too hot for Serge to handle, he will just move his base to England where he seems to have a big following also and ruin a beautiful part of the country by living in Somerset. He makes way too much money to 'top' (kill off) his customers.

Corboy don't worry too much yet about him crawling into the US, he uses his family to do the ground work first as in daughter Simone the swimming coach already living in the UK.

Alleged leader of cult works as psychologist
Michael Bachelard
October 17, 2010

Interesting Article. Not suggesting Serge is passing off as psychologist, but he is offering "Healing and there are some eerily interesting parallels however...

A WOMAN accused of leading a cult that has damaged the lives of scores of people is working as a psychologist with vulnerable patients at a community mental health service in Queensland.

Natasha Lakaev’s Universal Knowledge organisation was offering courses until last year that prophesied the world would end in December 2012 and almost everyone except her devotees would die.

A former member of her inner circle, Carli McConkey, has told The Sunday Age that Ms Lakaev was physically violent and psychologically manipulative, and had persuaded her followers that she was the Queen of Atlantis, a reincarnation of Jesus Christ, and one of 12 members of the Intergalactic Council of the Universe.


Ms Lakaev is now working as a government-employed psychologist at the Ashmore Community Mental Health Service near Surfers Paradise.

However, after The Sunday Age raised questions about her history, Queensland Health agreed to investigate the claims against her, and invited ‘‘anyone with concerns’’ to raise them with authorities.

Ms Lakaev denies all the claims of her former followers, saying she did not run a cult, had never been violent, and the theological claims were merely ‘‘metaphors’’, adding, ‘‘this stuff has been taken completely out of context’’.

Complaints against her by former acolytes have been investigated once by Queensland’s health regulator, but no action taken. The national health regulator will not comment except to say Ms Lakaev ‘‘has current registration and is therefore deemed fit to practise’’.

Ms Lakaev’s lawyers wrote last December that she was working as a case manager.

‘‘A large proportion of her clients are often initially highly unstable with disorders such as schizophrenia, delusional disorders, major depression, major anxiety and personality disorders,’’ the letter said. ‘‘Forensic clients with homicidal backgrounds are also present on the clinic client list.’’

Ms Lakaev has faced criticism for more than a decade about the extreme practices on her courses, and accusations that she was a practitioner of ‘‘coercive persuasion’’ or mind control techniques.

Ms McConkey, who spent 13 years under Ms Lakaev’s sway and only escaped in January this year, said Ms Lakaev had hit her and exploited her.

Ms McConkey lived on or near Ms Lakaev’s northern NSW property, Omaroo, near Burringbar, for many years, and during that time handed over $140,000 and spent nine years working without pay in her office.

‘‘Natasha Lakaev should in no way be a registered psychologist,’’ Ms McConkey said.

Ms Lakaev’s business, Universal Knowledge, is styled as a new age personal development course. It has not offered courses since last year, but the program promises to cleanse the ‘‘cellular memory’’ of its participants and help them take the ‘‘next evolutionary step’’ by lifting them into the fourth dimension.

Ms Lakaev told The Sunday Age she had not worked with the business for many years.

However, she founded the business in 1999 and she is listed on the website as ‘‘guiding individuals and groups for over 20 years in cellular memory cleansing’’. It is based at her property and is run by one of her devotees, and she and her children own 75 per cent of the shares.

She begged The Sunday Age not to refer to her work at Ashmore. She said: ‘‘I don’t harm people, I’m really good at my job, my clients are fine, my patients are fine.’’

Read more: [www.theage.com.au]



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I Just borrowed this from the menu above "mind control" as it is very succint and a reminder of what we are all doing here. Bold and underscores are mine.

Abusive Controlling Relationships

"Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pressures and practices that, intentionally or not, amount to conditioning techniques that constrict attention, limit personal relationships, and devalue reasoning."
-- Margaret Singer, Ph.D

What do you think, or feel, UM and non-UM people's alike?

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treefern
I have a few questions, I was wondering if anyone could help me solve?
Has anyone heard of someone coming forward to speak publicy, of being healed or even helped with a terminal medical condition by Serge or UM?
I would think that Serge would have dozens if not hundreds of people wanting to tell the world about the miracle that occured when they paid huge amounts of money to UM for their health to improve. I for one would be shouting form the highest hills to anybody who would listen, IF I had been 'cured'. All we have seen so far is a devotee talking about how well she felt after 'giving up sugar', not really worthy of a National television program. If that's the best Serge has it is pretty pathetic given the millions he is pocketing out of Universal MEDICINE.
Also for all the people who have left their partner to have a more "gentle, kind and loving life" with a partner who "makes love to you and just doesn't have sex" has anyone heard that this life has yet been found?
I see a lot of really lonely, skinny people going to expensive retreats coming home to cold and empty houses.
I have noticed how the home page for UM keeps adding lines....free to choose.
Yes Serge people are on to you and the 'TRUTH-NESS' (sorry I couldn't help myself) is closing in, fast!

Hey Treefern, yeah I've heard claims of people who have been 'cured' of illness particularly tumours through the UM massage.

Again though, I don't think it is that important: if the person is cured, good for them I'm glad they're free of their ailment, but whether or not Serge or Universal Medicine had anything to do with it is a belief, just like the claims that he turned water to wine doesn't prove Jesus Christ is the son of God.

Having someone close to you claim that they have been cured though, is an extremely strong pull hook to suck people in and their family members, just happy to have that loved one back in their life. And these desperate, agonised people who have tried everything else and already feel like mainstream medicine has failed them make excellent cult-fodder, and how comfortable are you going to be having an argument with someone you love who not so long ago you thought wasn't going to make it? And how easy would it be to separate such a person from their cents (pun intended).

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COncerned Partner
I Just borrowed this from the menu above "mind control" as it is very succint and a reminder of what we are all doing here. Bold and underscores are mine.

Abusive Controlling Relationships

"Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pressures and practices that, intentionally or not, amount to conditioning techniques that constrict attention, limit personal relationships, and devalue reasoning."
-- Margaret Singer, Ph.D

What do you think, or feel, UM and non-UM people's alike?

I think/feel it 's a perfectly accurate description of the effects of Serge's belief system on those who adhere to it.

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MacReady

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COncerned Partner
I Just borrowed this from the menu above "mind control" as it is very succint and a reminder of what we are all doing here. Bold and underscores are mine.

Abusive Controlling Relationships

"Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pressures and practices that, intentionally or not, amount to conditioning techniques that constrict attention, limit personal relationships, and devalue reasoning."
-- Margaret Singer, Ph.D

What do you think, or feel, UM and non-UM people's alike?

I think/feel it 's a perfectly accurate description of the effects of Serge's belief system on those who adhere to it.

Without question. An accurate description of the effects of mainstream religion, new age beliefs, destructive cult movements, and/or leaders.

It boggles the mind how many spiritual or national movements are in the world all claiming to have the truth and the thousands of willing participants gladly falling to their knees in submission.

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MacReady

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COncerned Partner
I Just borrowed this from the menu above "mind control" as it is very succint and a reminder of what we are all doing here. Bold and underscores are mine.

Abusive Controlling Relationships

"Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pressures and practices that, intentionally or not, amount to conditioning techniques that constrict attention, limit personal relationships, and devalue reasoning."
-- Margaret Singer, Ph.D

What do you think, or feel, UM and non-UM people's alike?

I think/feel it 's a perfectly accurate description of the effects of Serge's belief system on those who adhere to it.

One of the interesting parts of the quote for me is "intentionally or not". That resonates with me. Who knows the true motives behind anyone running such organisations, but certainly their practices have this effect on their subordinates, and once indoctrinated, it's very hard for them to be extracted.

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HerbertKane178

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MacReady

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COncerned Partner
I Just borrowed this from the menu above "mind control" as it is very succint and a reminder of what we are all doing here. Bold and underscores are mine.

Abusive Controlling Relationships

"Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pressures and practices that, intentionally or not, amount to conditioning techniques that constrict attention, limit personal relationships, and devalue reasoning."
-- Margaret Singer, Ph.D

What do you think, or feel, UM and non-UM people's alike?

I think/feel it 's a perfectly accurate description of the effects of Serge's belief system on those who adhere to it.

One of the interesting parts of the quote for me is "intentionally or not". That resonates with me. Who knows the true motives behind anyone running such organisations, but certainly their practices have this effect on their subordinates, and once indoctrinated, it's very hard for them to be extracted.

But the thing that absolutely sh!ts me to tears, sorry two things are:

1. That Serge could choose to be up front and honest, and say things like "I actually don't know the answer to that, I'm not a scientist", "it is just my personal opinion", "I'm not qualified to give an opinion on that" "no these dreams cards aren't magical, they are just pieces of laminated cardboard", he doesn't have to be manipulative, it would still be a cult, it just wouldn't be as harmful.

2. That normal, good, honest, down to earth, people are being literally sucked in by someone who is clearly out to harm them (be it monetarily, emotionally, psychologically, whatever) and when we are on here posting or trying to have meaningful conversations on the topic with them in our day to day (a topic that most of us couldn't give two sh!ts about in our normal daily lives), we are the ones that are being presented like morons, when we are on here day in day out researching a topic on their behalf, because their mind is to numb or brainwashed to do it for themself.

Oh please mighty Serge let your ignorance wash over me, cleanse my mind of it's intelligence so that I can let you do the thinking for me.

If you're reading this and I know you are - Serge, basically you are a simpleton. There is nothing special about you. You have read the cliffnotes on a few buzzwords and some other people's ideas, and I doubt your limited intellect would have enabled you to get past the Wikipedia entry for Alice A Bailey and Mme Blavatsky. You are not the reincarnation of anyone special. You are just a stock-standard, confused human like the rest of us.

Your lack of qualifications and limited intelligence (let alone grasp of the english language, especially in the written form) force you to move the goal posts, so that if people want to play with you it is not on a level playing field, you only play home games, you are free to change the rules, manipulate the players and lock the stadium doors so the spectators can't get in. Sorry Serge I don't want to play your game, I don't want my family and friends involved with you either, and bit by bit, there is a mounting surge (the correct spelling) of momentum against you, coming from other people like me, the cracks are opening up and the rain clouds are coming.