Re: Samuel Sagan Clairvision
Date: March 08, 2010 06:27AM
I don't know what your involvement with Clairvision was chrstabell, but at least half of the things you say are just plain nonsense. I hope people reading these postings will not come to a decision based on one individuals replies to a question.
I have been doing meditation with Clairvision for over 5 years and they are definitely not a cult. Of course you pay for the courses you do. Just like everywhere else where you might be doing a course, even at university.
I am going to try to respond to some of the questions by subotai:
Bear in mind that these are my responses and in no way am i a spokesperson for the Clairvision school.
##How is the agression being expressed? Is it directed at other participants and/or the individual itself and does it contain an element of verbal and/or emotional abuse?
--Some of the processes used in the school involve an interactive practice called ISIS, which is aimed at sourcing emotional issues, including agression, but this in no way involves being abusive to participants (in fact this is a two person practice). The facilitators responsibility involves to help the client to see for themselves what lies underneath their issues, and involves no trickery or any kind of 'pushing' things onto the client.
##Regarding the belief system that you mention, and that I assume is based on Sagan's books, is it used only metaphorical as a teaching tool or is it used in a literal sense, perhaps in order to directly influence the life's work of the participants?
--The models used are used as an aid to facilitate direct experience of things, not ever taught as a dogma, and in fact as the process evolves and the participants reach more maturity, the model evolves and changes, to allow an expression of the deeper level of subtlety in their experience.
Please feel free to ask any more questions subotai. i am happy to answer them.