Why did New Day Ministries bring the web site to a close? (A little "spooky" that they both opened and closed the site on McKay's birthday....Satan's humour?..... paying homage to one of his miserable servants?)
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I remember meeting "Happy" (one of McKay's erstwhile colleagues in the COG....I don't know where they were both mutually based, once upon a time)during my years of servitude....who, despite McKay's efforts never committed to the JesusChristians....all of them(former COG's) knew exactly where David was coming from...and could see right through him.....I cannot think o
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This is a man you met in the States?....I'm surprised that they even know of McKay... I otherwise heartily endorse their (and your) observations!
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...No! What time is it?....it's 9:45 p.m. here.... Do you remember this lyrical little number? A prayerful recreation of the spiritual zeitgeist of another era, altogether, I always thought....far, far removed from the barren cynicism of this day and age......and the snivelling opportunism of McKay and his ilk (It may "predate" you....although of course it doesn't pre-da
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Harping on a theme....another number that I've always loved.....perhaps it should be devoted to those partners who have had a loved one in the JC's, with maniacal McKay both overtly and covertly, doing his damn best to destroy the relationship in order that he can retain possession of at least, the remaining soul in his psychotic grasp.....and yet.... the couple have conquered the Satan
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I imagine that I've posted this previously.....however let me boorishly re-post, this, far and away, my favourite Pink Floyd number....David being a lot closer to death now, than when I knew him....the superficial arrogance he persists in, some what reflected in the transparent flippancy of the opening remarks here....sharply contrasting I think, with the inescapably whimsical kismet of the
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Yes an interesting outlook on a number of important matters, from Franky there. Mr Veitch is someone I should already know of ?
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No, DON'T walk on tiptoes...I'm making the same point.....you can be as abrasively loud as you like.... ...no one is listening in on McKay's petulant invention of himself, as victim any longer.....
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David may well keep your observations as "proof" of the veracity of his deranged paranoia, in the next psychological "labelling" exercise he wages against his critics..... ....if only anybody was still listening to him...!
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“Some of the best weapons do not shoot.” A VERY interesting little read there.....! Thank you, Stoic!
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....I'd be very interested in hearing of the actual contents of your studies one day... ...and I'd be very interested in hearing a good deal less of McKay (God it is hard to "plough through" survivors...the turgid text is THAT atrocious!) Retaining the JC site and deliberately starving the rest of the "graduates" from any access to it, is of course, intended
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...which is why another God forsaken, old coot, miserably living out his last few years in a tired old campervan......is also still worth a laugh! A right old "plonker" if ever there were one....!
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....ummm....a possible instance of odorless gangrene? (We can but hope!)
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Congratulations on your success in your Spanish studies.... and good luck with the rest of the units you require to complete your Psychology degree, Zeuszor...well done! You'll need though, to find another false prophet to be duped by...as I cannot see any reference to earthquakes and hurricanes in the opening pages of the current edition of "Survivors" (..to be surreptitiously
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Patience will be necessary here.....the fact that we barely hear a "peep" out of the graduates...reflects how poorly they are now able to "sell themselves" overall...a situation I would prefer, even though it means their exact where-a-bouts of these gentleman, will remain somewhat of an enigma!
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I'm not decrying the expenditure for Daniel's social benefit--poor kid needs every help if he's to fit in with his peers-- but the fact that they had such a ready stash of cash when needed rather undermined all that pious posturing about giving up all and embracing poverty as the way to live a godly life. How do you surrender all but still keep £15,000-£20,000 readies on hand for
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Haven't I always said that I just LOVE emus.....absolutely ADORE the animals and their quaintly mischievous little ways! (...a little bit of trivia for you there!)
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I also, am a little hesitant to simply "lambast" Glenn these days.....I joined the JC's after all and Glenn didn't....the facts are that I was completely duped by Mckay(to the point that I threw my lot in with them) and Glenn to date, hasn't been....even where I may disagree with his "take" on McKay, he has had the foresight/intuition NOT to become involved with
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Cold, calculating harpies?......this poor old world needs desperately needs more of them!
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I'm sorry to continue beating an old drum....but don't those images of sneering Saif Gadaffi, with a forced smile, forever fixed on his visage, while he crows about the rebels "trapped" in Tripoli and the "victory" he will shortly oversee, over his dastardly enemies....remind you at all of a little of a slightly younger McKay? I still think that pathological l
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While we are trying to develop a greater appreciation for supporters and ex-members.... David McKay I wonder which "ex-members" in 1996 experienced the "greater appreciation" McKay here self piously lies about......
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I see Alex has been briefly back....I presume he'll be targeted by the UK team (Simon, Bob, Alf....and whoever else)....he seems gullible enough to be potential fodder.... Hi Alex. Did you read on this web site that the JCs had disbanded? Or was that somewhere else? Officially, they have "graduated". I pretty much run this forum by myself now, and it was becoming a lot to
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I've dug into the archives and discovered that what I am saying now is a fairly natural progression of what I was saying fifteen years ago. David J. McKay Thank you for the link there, Apollo What David was claiming he said 15 years ago (when he was at a loss to explain to the public at large, why after AN ALREADY EARLIER 15 year period, he was still unable to attract significant nu
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I had retired almost two years earlier, so it would not matter if they continued to attack me, so long as the others could branch out, take on new names, create their own web sites, produce their own material (as well as using whatever material from me that they wanted, on the understanding that they were just pushing the message and not the guy who wrote it). (Thank you for the posting here,
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Thank you for your kind observations, Apollo and Zeuszor.....although I suspect that Stoic would be a far more "inspirational example" than I.... I was fortunate enough to have been there early enough to have been able to witness some good in McKay....a once warmly humane man, able to offer considerable insight into the sort of commitment that "faith" actually necessarily e
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Thank you for the link to the story McKay fabricated in January, Apollo....it is of course essential, to retain McKays "statements" as history is continually fabricated over the course of time with McKay...who thinks nothing amiss with his pathological dishonesty... The entire "statement" is an exercise in deceit, however..... What Cherry and I have sought so hard to bui
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I would tend to credit what David as written here as "factual"....with the proviso that I would love to know more of WHO precisely had the "revelations" to disband (and what the revelations might have been exactly...David's "revelation" that with the Australian Pension, he was now in a position to be able to dump those who had previously provided him with an inc
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McKay would be behind Tony's "crime" (as well as opportunistically seeking to "minimize" the pedophiliac activity of a current JC member in transparent "damage control)....spoiling Eygpt(as Berg first taught and McKay duly imitated)....the God forsaken hypocrite encourages his members to have no qualms in the "sacking" of the system...and then self importan
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Christine (Our sister moved to Brisbane with the explanation that they wanted to get as far away from Dave as possible... Bullshit! McKay's maniacally manufactured "persecution complex" here, preposterously overstated by Christine to somehow persuade us of their (yawn!!) "convicting impact".... Piss off Christine, with your indulgent vanity!!!
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QuoteApolloDoes anyone else find it odd that Christine calls her father ''Dave''? Yes I do find that disturbing as it was NOT the case when I was a member (Dec 81 - Jun 85)....and it is evidence of the sickening, downward spiral of McKay's twisted mind....in many ways reminding me of Pol Pots' "year zero" (dating the world from the only event of any true
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