Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?......Is that why I continue ripping off the heads of my poor teddy bears, every time I have another or those ghastly nightmares about David McKay (that even those ever increasing nightcaps of whisky fail to ward off)....waking myself up with my blood curdling screaming, sweating profusely, staring wide eyed into the darkness. ...is that what you mean?
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It has been very "quiet" in North Korea for a month or so, Zeuszor....almost "too quiet". ....I suspect divisions
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Dear Adrian, I will reply via a PM to your enquiry, if you don't mind! A "conversation" with McKay is akin to dialogue with Bashar Assad. I submit the following example: Hey ex-member from 20 years ago says,"Hi," again... 02/02/2012 23:33 Hey All, I thought I would say Hello again to everybody and anybody on this forum. As you would understand a lot
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Yes....I'd think that any hope of genuine dialogue with McKay would have, have had to occurred before McKay (duplicitiously) "committed" himself to the Children of God...he'd (subconsciously) basically decided at that point that he was committed to the attention that a "cult" could potentially bring him, I'd have thought... ...the Africa team? What has become
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...so we've managed 924 pages to date, then! D. McKay would be (perversely) proud of the fact.....
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Did you hear of this little incident, Zeuszor? Another "ex-member" somewhere else altogether, going "feral", as well! Good on Ms Cook,....the world needs more of her ilk!!
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"Call to Alms".....What a classic! Touche, Anita! A hilarious play on words....still as sharp as ever, there! ....while I don't dispute that we need to "watch developments" ....I am returning to my earlier theory that the "disbanding" is in fact McKay washing his hands of those for whom he no longer has any useful purpose....(i.e. McKay wanted to "disban
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No, I'm sorry Razaz, I'm not familiar with Mr Miller....have you tried CIFS in Brisbane? (David McKay tried to infiltrate one of their meetings and then inexplicably got a "bee in his bonnet" over a certain David Lowe......who imagined was behind all his opponents...never managed to work out the reasoning here....however, I guess that "reasoning" goes by the by....on
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...and Seasons' Greetings to you and those you love, as well Adrian! I remain as ever, unfortunately, sadly convinced that almost every word that McKay wrote in criticism of the mainstream churches, is regrettably true... ...if only the "Apostle" had managed to prevent himself from becoming even worse, the shifting sands upon which his house of cards, now lies strewn to the f
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Stoic may well have some good reasons behind the general "gist" of any recent comments....I'm sure that he would not comment superflously... Taking the 5th of November, last year, as the point of dissolution (McKay of course endeavouring to have his "cronies" continue to serve him, selling his empire (such as it is) without now having to bother himself in the slightest
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Another evidence of the fall of the House of McKay (should yet a further be needed) is that McKay has lost his "connectivity" to other languages...try clicking on the "preferred language" option in the top right corner of the JesusChristians website....only the Polish link is open...the (Japanese Server?) for the Spanish, German and French is down.... (Take a bow, Stoic!)
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"...Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do." Luke 12 "In nothing be anxious; but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God" Philippians 4
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An older posting, but in it, a clue about how David perceives himself.... Of course, when one learns by example, there is always the problem of poor examples. In leadership, for example, I picked up some bad habits from both my own father and from David Berg (of Children of God notoriety). Both gave me the impression that "authority" is linked with "blasting" people who h
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Does anyone have more information on Vicki....(left some years ago, had three children)....did she, or did she not commit suicide? David McKay routinely condemned to hell those who dared leave his empire as "not fit for the Kingdom of Heaven" and in whatever way he might manage to, sought to undermine them psychologically and financially (e.g. the money he defrauded from those in Aus
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Thank you both Zeuszor and Stoic, for those entertaining links. David McKay may have a volunteer in Kenya, whipped (in violation of Kenyan law as well as Biblical Principles in the Sermon on the Mount) as once "God" becomes no more than whatever particular interpretation McKay has of him (Jesus whipped the money changers in the temple....why can't we whip this third world nati
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(Umm..yes....well thank your views young, Adolf...if perhaps you were ultimately unable to quite procreate the master race....at least, it must be "gratifying" to observe your own arrogant opinions blithely repeated among certain of those, you once mocked as the lesser races i.e. Saif Gadaffi) Yes, I had heard of those Christmas exchanges...amazing incidences really! A credit to the
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Were Bill Miffin to have been in Australia at the time....I'm sure that Bon Scott would have invited him to play!! (However I take your point, Stoic, from your magical link to the spirituality of the "Pipes" in the lyrical melodies of timeless numbers such as "Amazing Grace"...could I continue to be the uncouth barbarian, that I am though, and still somehow enjoy the p
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A timeless little passage of jive there, Zeuszor...How DO you find all these classics on the spur of the moment? David has a written an (subconscious?) "admonition" to himself....(not that the demented hypocrite is likely to to be able to perceive how his own words, chiefly condemn no-one but David John McKay)... To wit: The "Working for God" Myth 22/11/2011 23:54
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...and in the "relaxed and friendly" spirit of the postings opening this page....here's a heart stirring "bagpipe number" (umm...well the intermezzo at least?) for my good friend Stoic!....(If I haven't posted it already? Oh well, it deserves a re-run!) (with a melodic "riff" or two for my old friend Zeuszor)....a classic piece traditionally associated w
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I must agree with Lord Haw Haw from at least a couple of perspectives.... People should be free to post, and not be bullied into agreeing with the established posters or they will be banned. This is an important point, that should be borne in mind.... While I agree with Stoic that McKay is irredeemably destinied to try to impose the relationships of domination and manipulation on EVERY
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...in order to create a psychological "point of entry" for his deceit, McKay deliberately fabricates a "background" (purposely failing to mention relevant facts, in order to create a false impression)....and hence we see in this recent exchange, "Hi John. That's interesting, what you say about the liturgical thing. Although I was raised in an evangelical church..
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You are of course, quite right, Zeuszor about the the administrative fortunes of the Children of God....(now known by another name, as you point out) I reference the COG's as a source for McKay as that was what the origin of the bulk of the literature McKay held, was, over the course of my own involvement and naturally enough, during the years in Broken Hill, as an "outpost" of Ber
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Yes it is confusing....the confusion stems from McKay's pilfering....(the Children of God teachings, and administrative practices, were originally the theology" he quietly appropriated for his own cult) "...spoiling Eygpt" is the COG doctrine that justifies "mining" the secular system, for whatever you may take it for.... Completely the opposite to say the appr
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Welcome Lord Haw Haw and thank you for your observations.... ...of course, without the constant and gratuitous references to "Christ", these bleating shams would only (as they know all too well) be all the more readily seen for what they are...
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....a subliminal confirmation that McKay ended his despotic reign by betraying those under his beck and call... "As for the delay in getting your posts to appear here, you are lucky that I'm online at the moment. It sometimes takes days for posts to appear (when I am busy or away)." While this is the usual manipulative "communication" (where McKay attempts to en
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Hmmm....I wonder if the Telegraph would be interested in a little background on "noble" Roland....his role in physically manhandling Kevin out of the premises that belonged to him...Roland and Sue's wider part in defrauding the Australian community of their home, AUD$30,000 in cash and other chattels, during the split in 1996.....when called upon by McKay to play the role of his go
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Just Hello 02/11/2011 14:49 Just wanted to say hello to all the amazing people that truly believe what is written on this site and who count their actions as great as "HIS" words(they are). I unfortunately have been a "plastic" Christian at best for most of my life and just wanted to thank the people of JC's for showing so clearly what really is right. Some very tou
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(Admittedly a little late), I chanced upon another clue that McKay simply abandoned his cult once he had his Australian Pension securely in hand, and had connived to have his miserable, little "dream cruise" paid for by his underlings....(We could do a LOT better ourselves, without much effort)... I note that in the last comment on the UK Listeners Site, from Ms "Amazingrace79&q
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Thank you, Corboy! I think you put it very nicely, when you stated that the financial records effectively "trace power"....the power that in the end, was all that McKay came to wield...his repeated refusal to address such requests for "clarification" on such matters, telling the world where his "treasure" lay.... RR in many regards, can notch up the demise of McKa
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(Hello Stoic!....Good to hear from you again! Pardon me for my own recent absences....Diving in the Philippines (Anilou if you know of it) among other things) Yes...you are right, Stoic! There ARE several unusual remarks that appear to serve as "clues" regarding the fate of the JC's.....("Hopefully at least some of the graduates are reading this here.".....why might it
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