Re: Samuel Sagan Clairvision
Date: September 21, 2021 11:48PM
> I actually tend to believe that there is a
> spiritual level to reality and have tended to
> before my time at CV. I found the experience of
> seeing purple lights and vibration in the eye to
> be intense as I did with a number of other
> techniques from the school.
> I'm not sure what scientific explanations people
> have for the experiences I have had but I would
> like to hear more about that.
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about, and I noticed it in the CV practitioners I met as well--sure, you might see purple lights and feel vibrations, but so what? One of the CV practitioners talked about seeing sacred geometries while meditating. That's lovely, but she seemed to attribute meaning to it, when the vast majority of meditation approaches I've been exposed to explicitly discourage indulging or attaching to experiences like that--they're not intrinsically a sign of development or that things are going well. I feel like there is this tendency to say 'well I saw colors, etc. etc. so this must be the real deal,' but there are all kinds of perceptual and energetic experiences that can happen that don't have anything to do with enlightenment (if you buy into that idea at all). Zen even has a term for them--'makyo' and students are explicitly encouraged to pay no attention to them.
I got the impression that there was a lot of spiritual ego going on as a result of these experiences--feeling like CV was superior to most other approaches, a sense of having special powers or abilities, etc.