Christopher Hansard
Date: May 24, 2007 06:34AM
Re:Gondolf's Posting
[i:9394259382]"He can sing songs and recite rituals in a language that is clearly not Tibetan but also has a clear syntax and grammer [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]How can you assert or prove this with any certainty, as this 'language' is uknown to you? As to logical syntax and grammar such coherance is present in over 30 recently constructed lanaguages) . Well one wonders what language that is? Is it the one which Hansard uses in his bizarre Flowering Lotus Tantra, which contains clear elements of Russian, Greek and Sanskrit words, clearly not some unique tongue, known only to Hansard. [/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]He knows something of a language he calls Kapi, [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]A language recognized by linguists and with a written history? Which region is this spoken, and by which people? According to the Dur-Con fantasy Hansard was taught by a mysterious Tibetan from Amdo a region in which the only language/dialects are Amdo-Tibetan and Golok-Tibetan. So where did Hansard obtain/learn this interesting ‘language? Perhaps telepathically from 'Vulper', a spirit entity, from the Con Star System?[/b:9394259382][/color:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]and each word has a meditation that goes along with it, unlike anything I or anyone else has encountered. [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]Your ignorance of this does not prove its validity or authenticity[/b:9394259382] [/color:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]His twelve ways invocations name all the dieties [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]Well as Hansard has stated, his 'system' is not Tibetan Yundrung Bon, presumably 'his' deities will be different?[/color:9394259382] [/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]complete with mantras. He knows several tantras [/i:9394259382]
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What language are these written in?[/b:9394259382][/color:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]He can build fires following very clear structural design [/i:9394259382]
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An idea created from the opening pages of Professor Snellgove’s definitive study of genuine Bon, 'The Nine Ways of Bon' which shows authentic Bon's sacred land of Olmo LungRing. [/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]He designed a small stupa [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]A basic design available to anyone with a library card.[/b:9394259382][/color:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]He teaches an exercise system that is balanced and unique and not found anywhere else . He has knowledge of a form of massage also not found elsewhere [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]This does not give any credence that his system is ancient or genuine. [/b:9394259382][/color:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]His Positive Thinking book has rituals and meditations profoundly unusual and effective [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]Subjectively perhaps, but individual perceptions does not demonstrate the veracity of his claims or 'system'. [/b:9394259382][/color:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]I don't think he made all this up. If he found it all in some obscure text, which text? [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]He did not, just plagiarized from available sources on genuine Bon, particularly Namkhai Norbu’s book.[/color:9394259382] [/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]And where is the translation? There is no doubt he is damaged goods, but don't you see? These things are the reason people believed in him. These things are real [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]They are perceived experiences, not historical, anthropological, linguistic or cultural facts. [/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]Just because Tibetan orthodoxy says they don't exist, the fact [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]It is not by definition a fact, only an assertion unsupported by any verifyable evidence[/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382] they do. I and others have experienced them [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]You experienced a subjective perception, not objective verifyable evidence that his system is either genuine or ancient. [/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]And that is why they put aside their discomfort so they could learn from him. [/i:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]By all means go after him for lying. By all means question the people who enabled this to go on. But stop condemning him for not conforming to Tibetan orthodoxy [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]He did not conform rather plagiarized and distorted[/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]when neither you nor anyone else knows the truth of where he got his knowledge [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]Knowledge it was not, invention yes![/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
[i:9394259382]And stop persecuting the victims [/i:9394259382]
[b:9394259382]My attentions have been directed at his associates/acolytes [/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]
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of his crimes as if they are responsible. Hansard at times displayed a psychopathic level of control over people and if you have never been around people with psychopathic tendencies, take my word for this: none of us are hardwired to know what to do with that, or even recognise the tendency. We either run away from them as quickly as possible, or become confused, or focus on the reason for being there in the first place and write it off to a difficult or eccentric personality".[/i:9394259382]
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The mind’s ability to rationalize and excuse questionnable behaviour never fails to amaze![/color:9394259382][/b:9394259382]