They all say Dr. Phil started it. The owners are grasping for anything to make this scam seem legitimate so they implant that phrase. I’ll bet she is about to start the hard sell on you with phrases like” I really need you to go for us”, “If you really care you will do this for us”. Do her calls come on Tuesdays? I think that was the day which my ex was told to call potential recruits. I would e
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discoveryluv That is good info! If Discovery training is forming in Austin, Houston, and San Juan, Ca we need to get the internet search engines to include those cities in searches for anyone who is researching this cult. That could help countless people read for themselves about this destructive organization. Thanks! I agree with Notmuch4games, I am here also to help those who earnestly want
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Notmuch4 games was right on target. Where to start is an understatement. This post by sanjalynn is a painful example of how people leave the program and absolutely are oblivious to what has just happened to them. Discovery Training Ministries (a ministry is how discovery presents itself to the IRS) implements the same model as numerous LGATS out there. This is well documented and that fact
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I hope you can set a legal precedent that can be used on other LGATS.
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Wow! A true poster child for LGATs. How sad she does not realize the damage that has been done to her and her family. She even refers to them as her "other family". How sad. This quote speaks volumes, "other than Salvation that this was the most spiritual thing I have ever been to". Well they are called Discovery training ministries? Maybe they are starting a new relig
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I had a coworker ask me about Landmark Education, and wanted to know if it was the same thing as Discovery Training that my ex-wife joined. He said he had been contacted via Myspace by more than one woman and after several emails they asked him about joining LE. He said “all of these girls had really strange personalities, they only talked about themselves and how they were so much better after
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QuoteSaneAgainQuote SaneAgain wrote: QuoteAt Impact do they also give "I Am A Man" and "I Am A Woman" type contracts? I'd love to hear more about these. Who are you contracting with? Is it the same for gay and straight people? The contract is with your new "self" to govern how you live the rest of your life. Its given in con
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X I am sorry to hear what happened. For what it’s worth I went through something similar. I ended our marriage before all of our money and possessions were gone. I am getting many calls from creditors looking for my ex. The LGAT Discovery Training killed the personality of my soul mate. I did find some comfort reading this forum and to know I was not alone, and that I was not crazy for
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I will be hoping and praying for you! The discovery people were the same way. 90% of her group was in a state of crisis from one thing or another, but they all seemed to think discovery was their salvation. I tried to point this out to her but she couldnt see it. They were losing their jobs, divorcing, being abandoned by old friends... Its crazy. The discovery training CULT is growing in the A
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Quoteawarean old M3 buddy called him to come see her tonite to cry on his shoulder about her crappy life and tell him about some 'new' stuff she learned at a workshop at M3 she just went to..note the 'My life sucks but let me tell you how M3 is helping me' 180..in an hour he forgot how good his life is now .......... point is...if you love someone who is caught up in this d
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Congratulations Zorro! You are an inspiration to those who have been through, or hurt by LGATS. I know your words have helped me in my ordeal. There is no doubt in my mind you have saved others from the dead end of LE and all LGATS. EC
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notmuch4games good to see you are still in the fight! I too will remain to educate people just how evil Discovery is. Straightup, it is crazy how the people become total believers. I refused to contribute to D2 (financially), and it looked like my ex would stop going but low and behold one of her new "family" came forward and paid for the entire weekend, including gas money. They s
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Thanks Bullet Those are the exact same exercises my ex-wife told me about when she attended Discovery Training. You must be very strong. I considered my ex very intelligent and strongly grounded in with high morals, but she fell for it, hook line and sinker. @ Katy, I hope this helps you see Millenium3 is just another version of the same old rip off mind rape that these groups offer up. They
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Bullet317 Please tell us about the exercises they use. I am curious if they are the same ones used in Discovery Training (which is Dallas), Landmark... I suspect Millenium3 is just another spinoff. People need to know if it is so that can avoid it at all costs. thanks EC
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Hey straightup What made you realize Discovery was a scam? You are lucky to get out with your mind still intact. They are still registered as Discovery Training Ministries LLC with the IRS, although they don’t include that info on their website. EC
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Mom1313 I am reading your post and am in complete disbelief as to WHY you would allow your children to be exposed to this. Landmark has been well documented to be destructive to families. There are red flags all over the place. Would you allow your children to attend a “forum” conducted by a person who had been convicted of drug trafficking, and being a sexual predator? With the explanation tha
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Skeptic Is there any point where they say things to make you distance yourself from family? I guess I am trying to understand, is it so hidden a person might not realize it? Is it repetition of an idea, or do you just suddenly think that the group is your only hope. I saw my wife change nearly every aspect of morals and ethics we both agreed on in a matter of three weekends over 3-4 months. I
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Mine showed no remorse regret, or emotion. She told me she had her new family and they were her support group that is why she was not unhappy. That really hurt... she was more like a casual acquaintance. Her best friend and I still talk, she called last night and said my wife insisted she was happy but her professional life did not bear this out. Samuel did yours act that way also? Vlinden,
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Crap Vlinden, about 80% of what you write on this the forum strikes a nerve with me. My wife told me that she had not been living from her heart for the seven years we had been married. We weren’t really soul mates because Discovery has taught her to be herself and live her contract, blah blah blah. I was devastated. She assured me if I would just attend Discovery, I would truly “get it” and
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I read in another thread that Vlinden commented about consumer protection for LGATs. LGAT are already violating established laws. My wife related to me that in her group alone there was a man who revealed his "big secret" to the group that he is a child predator. He admitted to felony sexual abuse TO CHILDREN!!!!!!. Another man admitted he was involved in an organized gambling system i
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When mine returned from the 1st weekend, she was violent, angry, blaming everyone for everything, which was very unlike her. After the 2nd weekend she came home glaze eyed and definitely on a high (not drugs). I tried to talk about this during a marriage counselor session and the counselor said I was projecting my feelings on her. huh? The counselor later admitted she had friends that went to E
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I would have to say, mine was an abrupt change. My wife had been sexually abused in early childhood and early teens, her parents did nothing to address either event. They even told me they were embarrassed by her early teen experience. The actor was a close friend of the family. I know... that is unbelievable to me, but I heard it with my own ears. We had discussed these events and I felt she ha
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vlinden your description is EXACTLY how my wife was after attending Discovery Training in Dallas. She too was very intelligent, and would never buy into this thing. I did see a glimpse of hope a few times when I would force her to talk to me and use critical thinking. By this I mean not using the jargon (living by your heart…). I would ask what she meant when she would say “I acknowledge you, I
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What is the normal time frame from induction into a LGAT to ending a relationship? My marriage ended just shy of three months after my wife attended a LGAT. She said the only way she wanted to work on our relationship was for me to attend Discovery-Training LGAT, because I wouldn’t understand until I experienced it. It is amazing all of the similarities (techniques, demands, actions…) between
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Mary K I am sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing with the forum. You post was scary! It is painfully clear how similiar LGATS are. I recently lost my wife to Discovery-Training Ministries in Dallas. She said the same things. She said she was never able to be herself (in 7 years) and discovery helped her realize who she was. She said she always agreed with me on things we did because
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Questions: Are you required to have any type of license to perform hypnosis on people for a fee? Second, is it illegal to perform hypnosis on someone without their consent? Can it be proved LGATS (LE, discovery...) are using hypnosis? Just wondering. EC
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Otts stated 'I had sent a text message to his wife stating that I hoped things were going well with her (I also wrote her a reference letter for a scholarship to the second session of Discovery). Those are hardly the actions of a cult member, they are in fact the actions of a freind, tho notmuch4games has succeded in making sure that his wife has no freinds." I want to make sure I
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They will be back. In my last post I stated cold hard facts that conflicted with their fuzzy minds view of discovery. No doubt that required critical thinking to respond, I am sure they are running back to their trainers to see how to respond to those unhealthy non believers. That is funny about the founder. If one were to call and verify those references he lists on the website, the response
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I agree, thank you for making this a safe and informative forum. I did not attend a LGAT, (I lost my wife to Discovery-Training Ministries in July or last week depending on how you look at it) but I have found it helpful to see others experiencing the same problems, and how they came through it. EC
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Otts you said: “The reality is that not everyone who goes to discovery has a bad experience (in fact the reality is that a huge majority of the people have their lives changed for the better), that reality is based on fact, what is yours based on Vic...other than extreme, uneducated, bias?” Please provide the facts based on objective measurable results. Those facts could stop much of this di
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