Ok, I pulled the trigger too quick sending the last post. I have more thoughts. justlanodan wanted to understand "I acknowlege your position" and "I experience you as". those are thought stopping phrases. Classic ericsonian tecniques again. Another one my wife started using is "meet me where I am at", which is littered throughout the flyers discovery sends out. ju
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Suspect I am thrilled you were able to rebuild your marriage. Not everyone has the same results. Thank you for agreeing discovery uses many of the same drills and techniques as other LGATs. I agree with the moderator that no meaningful research addressing the long term results exists. From what I have read there seems to be published research on elements needed to produce substantial behavior
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Vic-Luc your message storage is full and will not let me PM. Please PM me. Hallslm, looks like they have changed their classification to an Educational Organization, Offering Personal Social Services even though the name they use is DISCOVERY TRAINING MINISTRIES INC. Wow! Do you think all of those people know they are supporting a ministry? Its funny the damn flyers they are sending dont se
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Discovery Training has succeeded in destruction of several more relationships through the emotional and psychological abuse they sell. My wife and I have been having a hard time since she started attending this LGAT. Yesterday out of the blue she stated I just didn’t get it and the only way she would continue to work on our marriage is if I attended ALL of the discovery trainings. She was sure
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Well there goes another happy discovery convert/recruit. At least maybe he will honor his contract ha ha and not post anymore. He said most people who attend are in abusive relationships. I wonder if he is the abuser or victim? He sounds like a victim of dicovery to me. There is no question in my mind discovery is another version of Lifespring. EC
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notmuch4games, check your private messages EC
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Hey Otts, What would you do if men were contacting your wife and encouraging her to do something they KNOW is causing problems in your relationship? What would you do if these men were having an emotional affair with your wife? Let me get this straight, you can you justify discovery people causing problems as the spouses being insecure. Wow that sounds rational to me! Discovery is promoting be
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Notmuchforgames I called several DFW news stations, and a Texas magazine, but no one responded. Please call your contact. I think if the word gets out to the media maybe some people/marriages can be saved. Hopefully someone in a regulatory capacity will see it and discovery will be investigated and stopped. I remember the first week after my wife went was the worst. She was a completely differe
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Notmuchforgames Sorry to hear about your wife getting caught up in this. I have read on this forum that a lot of people did not push or argue with their spouses, tried to be supportive and had some success. I went a different direction and it seems to work for my situation. I tried to show my wife information on how discovery was bad. She agreed that she would stop going if I could prove it.
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QuoteDo they inform you of that at the outset? Do they advertise this? Do they offer themselves up as qualified to deal with emotional issues that are traumatic enough that people think they need to be "healed?" Do they admit that what they do is fake or pseudo psychology done by untrained and unaccountable non-professionals? My wife admitted this weekend that the trainer in
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Dan the man you are absolutely full of bullshit. You say there is no hypnosis in Discovery in the first paragraph, and THEN the next paragraph say there was “zip hypnosis” ……… Does that make any sense to anyone else? What is Zip Hypnosis? Discovery is built exactly on the same model as est, Lifespring, … They even use the same activities and techniques. As far as me not getting it until I at
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one more thing I forgot to mention. The trainers would shout Hosanna Hosanna Hosanna (sp?) at times during the event. My wife said it was just another word for God. It felt kind of weird hearing it. Is it another word for God? EC
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Sane Again, My sentiments exactly, I was just afraid I could state them that way! Milton H. Erickson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson) used stories that used metaphors to plant ideas or thoughts into the unconscious mind. The stories would typically ramble and allow the subject to go into a trance where certain words were emphasized. I think NLP was developed on his model of h
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What and experience! It was worth attending. I now have a better understanding of why people get hooked into these things. The best description I can relate is that it was like a high school pep rally. Extremely loud music, running through paper banners, jumping, dancing, and the group taking a person and moving them overhead along the line with the group holding them up. The paid trainers
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I wanted to update the list on some developments. My wife is attending the third and final (I am not holding my breath) Discovery training session this weekend. The marriage counselor we are seeing suggested I attend the end of the training to show support for my wife, and let the group have a face to associate with her when they are dealing out therapy. At the end of the last training they have
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Question Lady here is the link to the article Looks like the problems were the same back in the 60's! EC
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I think the user name “suspect” is very appropriate for this person who appears to be supporting this LGAT. Discovery HAS attempted mind control and tried to dictate who and how my wife spends her time with as well as the priorities in her life. Discovery is based on the same model as Landmark, Lifespring… There are even former members of Lifespring in the training staff. The group HAS attempted
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Thanks Question Lady I fully expect a relapse or backslide, but being aware and prepared to respond may help me and my wife. I appreciate the people and information on this forum. I am glad to see a positive response from my wife. Evoking critical thinking was a last resort attempt for me. It really makes sense in a way. This LGAT clearly attempts to subdue critical (or questioning the goal of
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I wanted to share what I am doing to recover my wife from a LGAT, and have made some headway. After reading a lot of posts saying you should be supportive and not argue with them about their new friends, I took another approach. First, I was at the point of filing paperwork for a divorce because of my wife’s actions. She had placed her new family (and she called them that!) above me and our 1
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You know, I had heard of the white collar cults but didn’t realize this qualified (as I do now). My mother in law has recruited both of her daughters and her sister into this thing. I will admit I had some trust in my mother in law because she is completing her Ph.D. counseling from the University of North Texas! I wonder if UNT realizes they are essentially granting a professional license for c
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Thanks for your post, My wife has just attended the Discovery training in Dallas. She is OBSESSED with the "group" and communication with others in the group she attended. If anyone has had loved ones in this group and have experienced a significant change in personality I need some insight to try and help her and our marriage. This is frightening stuff, I wish I would have researched
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