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13 years ago
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Condemnation says that you, your being is not worthy of being saved. Conviction says that your actions are not in line with God's will for your life. Which of these is an act of the Holy Spirit? And which of these is from the Father of Lies?
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Who condemns you? The evil one Who justifies you? The Only Son Who convicts you? The Holy One The evil one points out that you are wrong and condemned to death and have no hope. He came to steal kill and destroy. The Only Son points out that you cannot justify yourself. He came to bare your sin upon himself and pay your debt. The Holy One points out that you are guilty and fall short
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Does the Holy Spirit Convict Believers of Their Sin? It depends. Do you Believe God Corrects those He Love? Someone points out the following: In Revelation 3, Jesus is addressing his church (believers) and says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline" The Greek work used in Rev 3:19 is elegcho. It is the same word used in John 16:8, “And He, when He comes, He will convi
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Rom 8:13 “... by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, then you will live.”
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteAny man who says the Holy Spirit does not convict you of your sin is a liar and a fraud. From such men you should run far away for they do not teach the Word of God. They teach only that which will enrich their bank accounts and swell their pride. John 16 5"Now I am going to him who sent me, yet none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6Because I have said these thing
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuotebuddyI was at the christian book store today and looked at the book "Destined to Reign" by Joseph Prince, the secret to effortless success, wholeness and victorious living. Dave Luster came up with that the Holy Spirit does not convict you of sin from this book and has been pushing it and wants everbody to read it. (on page 134) Does the Holy Spirit convict you of sin? That is
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteostracizedoneTHE GOOD OL' THREAT OF SPIRITUAL DEATH Former cult members, mostly young girls, have told police they were instructed to undress for health checks and to have sex with Jeong to remove their sins. The girls said they were threatened with spiritual death if they spoke of what happened, according to previous media reports. THE GOOD OL' END OF THE WORLD
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteostracizedoneFalse apostles are rising up in New Zealand, the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, and in other countries. They plan to subjugate (to bring under control and governance as a subject, to conquer) Churches and their leaders. From what we can tell these "Super Apostles" aim to build a fiefdom (a medieval feudal estate) of churches with themselves as the lords,
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Quoteostracizedonehttp://www.howcultswork.com/ A cult will have a slick well-rehearsed Public Relations front which hides what the group is really like. You will hear how they help the poor, or support research, or peace, or the environment. They will tell you how happy you will be in their group (and everyone in the cult will always seem very happy and enthusiastic, mainly because they have b
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Symptoms of an Unhealthy Church 1. Abusive leaders base their spiritual authority on their position or office rather than on their service to the group. Their style of leadership is authoritarian. (I am an Apostle; Im the prophetess therefore...; Im the pastor and I say...; I am your Covering...;) 2. Leaders in abusive churches often say one thing but do another. Their words and deeds do n
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Symptoms of an Unhealthy Church 1. Abusive leaders base their spiritual authority on their position or office rather than on their service to the group. Their style of leadership is authoritarian. (I am an Apostle; Im the prophetess therefore...; Im the pastor and I say...; I am your Covering...;) 2. Leaders in abusive churches often say one thing but do another. Their words and deeds do n
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Symptoms of an Unhealthy Church 1. Abusive leaders base their spiritual authority on their position or office rather than on their service to the group. Their style of leadership is authoritarian. (I am an Apostle; Im the prophetess therefore...; Im the pastor and I say...; I am your Covering...;) 2. Leaders in abusive churches often say one thing but do another. Their words and deeds do n
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuotenooneofanyimportenceQuoteBrokenheartedQuoteTurningPointRejectWhen was the last time new elders were appointed at TPC? Anyone have any idea? Rick Lewis is the "newest" elder. He was ratified about 7 years ago...I think. no it was ron olin This is a very closed, dysfunctional system. It is unhealthy. This is one reason why Turning Point Church in Marysville goes through a
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuotewherefromhereAlso Jeff Moors, You say you support your mother 100 % and you believe in her innocence. I had heard this spoken by many. That you continue tospeak well, but how canyou stay at a place that has hurt, destroyed and severed her reputation, a plavce where she is not allowed to step foot in your office. What do you tell your kids about their grandma not able to come see them sing
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13 years ago
TurningPointReject
When was the last time new elders were appointed at TPC? Anyone have any idea?
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
NEXT LEVEL THINKING Date: May 2, 2010 Time: From 9:00 am until 10:30 am Location: Turning Point Church 715 W Division Mount Vernon, WA 98273 BIBLICAL THINKING Luke 16 14The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued a
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Come one, Come all. Worship at the feet of the demon called mammon. Bow Down at the Altar of Baal Date: May 2, 2010 Time: From 9:00 am until 10:30 am Location: Turning Point Church 715 W Division Mount Vernon, WA 98273
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Luke 15 "No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money (mammon)." 14The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men (ever hear a pastor say,&quo
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Luke 15 "No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money (mammon)." 14The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men (ever hear a pastor say,&qu
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Paul Washer's Testimony
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Quotetell the truthEven better is the Joel Olsteen vs. Paul Washer part 3 of 3. Wow. So good. So true and so right. If I knew how to post it here I would, but I can't.
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
“Error is like leaven, of which we read, ‘A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.’ Truth mixed with error is equivalent to all error, except that it is more innocent looking and, therefore, more dangerous. God hates such a mixture! Any error, or any truth-and-error mixture, calls for definite exposure and repudiation. To condone such is to be unfaithful to God and His Word and treacherous to im
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
TPC's Unlimited-The Young Professionals The place was packed...yep...looks packed. All 25 of em. They look enthused too... And they all look...so...professional....t-shirts...ball caps... and all Young Professionals having their brains washed nice and clean. Do you suppose they pay double honor? If so, who do they pay it to? Mike? Jeff? or Jeff? Who might be their spiritual d
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
A different approach to taking sabbatical A leader is as a leader does
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
I was listening to this sermon by Mark Driscol at Mars Hill ( he is controversial, yes ). At the 24 minute mark in the message he begins to describe Scribes. Take a listen and tell me if this description sounds familiar to you Below is the transcript of the actual audio. The religious people, the Pharisees and the scribes, look around and they start criticizing, “What is Jesus doing
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
From the site biblelight.net: The Bible on False Prophets The Old Testament The True Prophet Hears From God Through Dreams: Num 12:6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. The True Prophet Preaches Repentance And Obedience To God's Law Jer 23:21 I ha
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