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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuotetpcwocattenderWhat would benefit most Christians today is a clear understanding of church history. Remember the game when you were a kid where you whispered something in a person’s ear and they whispered it in the next, so on and so forth until you get to the end and it is discovered that the original message was fouled up? This simple analogy can be applied to the church. How long has so
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Some warning signs of cult followers: Leader criticism is characterized as "persecution" extreme obsessiveness toward leader or group, resulting in the exclusion of every practical concern a dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor former followers are, at best, considered negatively, and at worst considered evil anything the leader does c
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Are You The Victim of a Mind Control Cult? Test Yourself. (Please answer the following questions honestly) Do you feel that no matter how hard you try, the ‘good deeds’ you perform for your group are never quite enough? As a result of this do you often feel plagued with feelings of guilt? What are you motivated by? Is it genuine love for God and the group etc., or is it fear of not m
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteBraveHeartHere is a video that I just heard about today listening to Wretched Radio.com I just finished watching it tonight. WOW it is a must see for every Christian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8 Give it a watch & see listen and tell me what your thoughts are? Good stuff. . .but where was the section on how God wants to prosper me and make me rich? And he forgot
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Quoteiattend It seems like you guys just assume all healing is fake and the churches that have healing are wacked. Nice to see ya again Iattend. These are exciting times at Turning Point Church. With the launch of United Global Ministries they have fully given themselves over to the teachings and instructions of the New Apostolic Reformation along with the likes of Todd Bently, Rick Joine
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Yep...you guessed it...another doctrine link...
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
you know, noone...you left Turning Point Church because the leaders lie. What's so wrong with telling lies? Where does it say lying is wrong?
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Quotenooneofanyimportence well I guess I should take back what I just wrote, I certainly dont want to make you mad lol. I dont need to seek the truth I can count on you to tell me. the truth or your truth or some truth ole wise one I am not interested in telling you what truth you should follow. In fact, I believe that you do have a set of doctrines you follow and hold close to your hear
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
How do you define "doctrine"? I see where some say, "right or wrong doctrine doesnt matter" or "I didn't leave Turning Point Church because of doctrine." So-- what do you mean when you say "doctrine"? If true or false doctrine doenst matter then why did Peter, Paul and John confront false teachers who taught doctrines contrary to what they t
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteTurningPointRejectQuoteTurningPointRejectQuoteTurningPointReject Purpose PURSUE unity within the Kingdom of God (Eph 4:1-6, 11-16) Do these verses really say what mike is inferring??? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Ferris Bueler? You pastors who have given yourselves to unity, as a man gives himself to a harlot, need to realize the reason mike ( T
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteiattendI attend turning point and here is my view. 7. I trust God. I trust Him to tell me where to go and if I am in some horrible church where my salvation is at stake I really think He would get me out. See if false doctrine is being taught it can't change whether or not my heart is seeking after God and if I am seeking after Him He will show me if I am messed up or if something I
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteTurningPointRejectQuoteTurningPointReject Purpose PURSUE unity within the Kingdom of God (Eph 4:1-6, 11-16) Do these verses really say what mike is inferring??? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Ferris Bueler? You pastors who have given yourselves to unity, as a man gives himself to a harlot, need to realize the reason mike ( Turning Point Church )pu
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteTurningPointRejectQuoteTurningPointReject Purpose PURSUE unity within the Kingdom of God (Eph 4:1-6, 11-16) Do these verses really say what mike is inferring??? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Ferris Bueler? A quote from Charles Spurgeon -Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Some over all thoughts on all of your points: Some specific thoughts on points 4 and 7: QuoteiattendI attend turning point and here is my view. 1. There are people on this forum who have hurt me significantly. They manipulated me, used me, knowingly and willfully hurt me time and time again and while they were in leadership. And I am one of many. In fact I think I would be safe to say
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Iattend, Thank you for taking time to post your thoughts. You have an interesting perspective. I am sorry you have been manipulated by posters on this forum. I hope you are able to go to them and work it out. If I am one of those who have manipulated you please contact me so I can make amends. I am glad that you have taken time to read all the posts on this forum (at least I assume you
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteTurningPointReject Purpose PURSUE unity within the Kingdom of God (Eph 4:1-6, 11-16) Do these verses really say what mike is inferring??? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Ferris Bueler?
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
QuoteTurningPointReject Vision To facilitate relationships among pastors and churches with the common purpose of making Jesus famous. (Eph 3:7-11) facebook fame Michael Jackson 11 million fans Barack Obama 7.5 million fans Vin Diesel 7.5 million fans Megan Fox 5.9 million fans Lady GaGa 5.3 million fans Adam Sandler 3.8 million fan
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
All of this SOUNDs good. Right? Sounds LIKE truth, does it not? Except that the truth has been twisted just a teeny tiny bit. Who can find where Mike has ever so slightly twisted the truth to suit his purposes? Yes, this is a challenge. So who is up to the challenge? Anyone? Can any Marysville Pastor see the flaws? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Ferris Bueller?
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Vision To facilitate relationships among pastors and churches with the common purpose of making Jesus famous. (Eph 3:7-11) Purpose PROVIDE Apostolic leadership, encouragement, training and resources to pastors and church planters. (Acts 15:30-35, 16:5, Eph 4:11-13) PURSUE unity within the Kingdom of God (Eph 4:1-6, 11-16) PRODU
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
I sense there is a general disappointment with leaders in all areas-church, politics, corporate business, media, education, etc. Hence the growth of Home based churches, Tea Party, wall street backlash, decline in readership and viewerships of news organizations, and the continue growth of homeschooling. The mass exodus from Turning Point Church in Marysville is just one symptom of a larger
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
C Peter Wangner is the Super Apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation - this is the movement that TPC and Mike have aligned with Send to friend OPEN LETTER to WAGNER, JOYNER... -by Andrew Strom. I write this as a tongues-speaking, Spirit-filled, prophesying believer. Dear Rick Joyner and C. Peter Wagner, I will do my utmost to avoid disrespect in this letter. But I cannot a
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Isa 42:3 (KJV) He Promises that, “A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.” If the flame is still lit, no matter how diffused and ineffective, He will not quench it, but thoughtfully and lovingly watch over it, tend it, and protect it until the flame can once again burn with intensity.
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
Powerful Story...could this be you?
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14 years ago
TurningPointReject
How's Your DNA?
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