Watch you don't chip your teeth on the bone you are chewing Zeus.
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"What exactly is their goal, if not to stop him???" One has to wonder, eh? Do we even have a "goal"? Do we even need a "goal"? What exactly are we doing with our life, if we are not hell bent on "stopping" someone? Could it being living?
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I do not consider that the above article quote is an accurate representation of the facts as the child's mother was with him, having joined the group. 6 months is a very short time to serve for "child abduction" in any country. I actually wrote a letter that could be used in his courtcase to overturn his wrongful imprisonment. I may disagree with what they do and teach others to
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According to section 3, of this section of the crimes act, Roland is not guilty of "child abduction" as all the "children" in question were teenagers. I just thought I would give that feedback so that misrepresentation does not occur, and that if it does, it is understood that I am not party to it.
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How come I can view this site, and any other site I choose, without my firewall blocking an intrusion attempt carrying a "malicious toolkit", like I see when I visit the JC site? Strange coincidence, if that is what it is.
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Quoting Cherry Roland, I think the point that Casey was trying to make was that Craig hid XXX identity because Craig knew that XXX would have been ashamed of what he said. And I see no reason why we should expect an "admission" from XXX, since the letter itself is all the evidence that is needed. I had, however, hoped that he would apologise. Doing a bit of mind reading there Che
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As has been said all along. There is enough covert coercion within the group to warrant discussion on these issues. And while "system" wheels may turn slowly and take time recognising such things, eventually the hospital ethics boards recognise the facts.
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This psychiatrist is acting in a professional manner having a usual case discussion of a potential donor and is now being lambasted on the JC forum for acting criminally for discussing Rolands case with other medical professionals so that a judgment can be formed on the ethics involved. One again the JC’s project their actions onto others. From Dr XXX XXX, MRCP MRCPsych Consultant in Ps
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Quoting "Cherry" See: Something similar happens when someone tries to force us to follow a rule about giving to everyone who asks or about not going to court against someone. What we need to look for is the truth that is being taught in those passages... truths about not being greedy... not truths about giving in to the selfish demands of a greedy world. This may sound like
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The woman next to Rob is Christine, Boopalan is the smiling one front left. I do not know who the pensive looking character at the front is, but he does remind me of someone from "At play in the fields of the Lord". Good to see a bit of tech stuff lying around, i.e. laptop, mobile phones, a PDA? Also intersting that they are charging $1.50 US for a small book (Jungle Book) that still
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This is why I do not like you Zeus. The man is recovering from an operation for cancer and you say your god did it. Sick! And you wonder why some ex members want nothing to do with you.
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Dave, I am sorry to hear that you had cancer. I hope you are able recover well from it.
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QuotezeuszorHe is your friend? You must be kidding or something. I am HIS friend. I doubt he would claim to be my friend.
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I am doing a cut and paste like Zeus. BEGIN PASTE .......................................................................................................................................................................................... A few responses for you Sekto, 1. Are you so blind that you cannot see this comment: "I said that IMO some of the ex-members were all talk and were
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Yasmin thanks for the encouraging words. What is going on here guys? It seems that some sort of shift has occurred where now a website where exmembers and their supporters post is being scrutinised. What is that? Even the "cult" word has been used. Truly a joke, and no doubt plays right into Dave's hands validating what he says. Are you sure Zeus is not working for Dave?
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Responding to Sekto's concerns, It is a fact that only around 10% of ex-members of cults will ever talk about their cult experiences with someone other than a therapist or close friend or family member; in other words, most ex-members of these kinds of groups never talk about it. Further, only approximately 50% of ex-cult members ever return to God in some form or fashion; in other word
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I do not think Dave is doing a runner. He likes conflict
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I do not think Dave is doing a runner. Her likes conflict
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Dave takes the time to ponder his position and obvious bitterness Source: I've been thinking a bit lately about my attitude toward Quakers in general. I remember that, for the short time that I was in the Children of God, I saw enough of the bitterness that some ex-members had that I prayed and asked God to help me not to become like that even if I did decide to leave. I never praye
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Here is a succint response from someone named Annette who has personal experience with the BCF and knowledge of the woman that Dave calls "dumb" (see ) RE: David Lowe on Four Corners Would just like to point out a few things: Helen Pomeroy did not divorce her husband. It was her husband who divorced her and even though she refused to sign the papers the divorce was granted. Her
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Chris Hall says that the "extended" Hall Family has three houses. But the extended Hall Family is actually three families, isn't that right? So isn't that pretty much the norm in Australia? One house per family? I don't see the scandal in that. Chris Masters asks David Lowe: "How much transparency applied to the church’s accounting?" David answers: "
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A response to Dave's 4 corners rant. The "Four Corners" program broadcast on ABC-TV last night (June 23, 2008) is a classic example of what appears to be a fast-growing and well organised assault by the political and religious Left on more traditional evangelical religious groups here in Australia. Dave is deliberately hedging his bets here by saying “appears to be” rather
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I wonder if he is going to drop in on his family and rebuild relations.
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QuotezeuszorI am the only one left it seems who has not been banned form the JC forum so here I am banging my head against the wall with David one more time. Reason being. It serves his purposes to have you continue posting there which kinda says something don't you think?
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Blacksheep wrote: “ Correct me if I've read this wrong. McKay has an article on his (Lisa's) website in which he actually admits to circumventing the democratic process so as to hold absolute authority? So is McKay the JC equivalent to the pope? Does he maintain that he is somehow infallible? The Divine Authority article labours the point that Dave believes he has a special anointin
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Dave responds to a point put to him by the Quakers:http://welikejesus.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=19927#19927 Question 1. How does your belief that you have divine authority fit with the Quaker belief that there is that of God in everyone? Each Quaker equally may experience a leading from the divine light within, which they would then take to their local meeting seeking discernment. ”…. I w
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All good question PI Dave, when are you going to visit your family? Relationships with family are important. I am sure you and your grandchildren would both benefit from each others company. Time to lay it all aside and focus on relationships with family members.
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Joe, from Basketball, to vollying for "prophet" status. Source: Now, on to my real point. What I am (rather cautiously) postulating here is that Barrack Obama WILL win the populous election to represent the United States in the upcoming election this year -- much the same as Al Gore did in winning the populous election over US president George Bush eight years ago -- only before he
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Dave comparing critics with terrorists source: Their campaign of terror and hate is obviously far from over. So even the more modern meaning of the word "dismember" is not so far away from the truth. "campaign of terror" You must be joking Dave. Chill out!
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Quotebarbiedoll But i do not wish to be involved in the forum debate any further. I hope things go well for you Barbiedoll. My offer of support stands if ever needed at a future time. Take care
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