QuotemuppetDM is particularly concerned that professional 'cult-busters' can impact negatively on their recruitment. He claimed that they have a fairly high record of success in 'brainwashing people against groups if they are able to get the person before they have had deep personal involvement in the group'. This is one reason for the JC's ruthless recruitment st
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QuotezeuszorNotice how on that CBS4 clip I posted above, about halfway through, those guys are standing there with a sign that says, "The Man Crist Jesus HE IS BACK!" Notice how Miranda's sheep are so Biblically iliterate they didn't even spell "Christ " right. Actually, it is so sad...I want to laugh and cry at the same time. Karl Marx's comments that relig
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QuotezeuszorMore than a naughty boy, apostate. He's an evil SOB. It is amazing what some people can do and say.
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QuotezeuszorA Puerto Rican Messiah...now I've seen it all. Interesting fellow. Three rolex watches. He's not the messiah, he's just a naughty boy :lol: .
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QuotezeuszorHey ex-JCs, please tell us, in detail, exactly what the "Virgin Army" thing is all about. How does it relate to teachings about the 144,000? My understanding of the virgin army is that it draws on teachings from the book of Revelation and both literalises, and symbolises it to make it fit their particular slant. The literal side is that members should remain single, if t
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QuotematildaQuoteDave McKay'critical thinking skills'? Is that what you call it? I'm afraid that I have found very few 'critical thinking skills' on the part of contributors to this site. I honestly think that almost all of the traits that you say characterise cults relate very strongly to the attitudes evidenced and supported on this site. Fran and others have tried
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Quotematilda Yes, and I would add that only is Cherry an enabler for Dave's co-dependency he puts time into training others to be enablers by teaching them that it is their responsibility to trust him... and not his to trust them. There is no equality of relationship with Dave
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QuoteFranI think the website also says that anyone is free to email us and ask for any of the restricted articles, stating why they want to read it. I don't think we have ever denied anyone who emailed us and was interested in reading them free access to those articles. I agree with you that people who want to see evil in us will see that as suspicious. On the other hand, people who a
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QuoteXenophone Yeah, my apologies, I should have heard you out. I do remember that Divine authority article. I personally don't have a problem with the idea of having an anointed leader. Its just that with the JCs they have this divine authority teaching at the same time they mock other churches for not their lack of spirituality because they follow their leaders. No probs Xenophone
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QuoteXenophonePerhaps you join these groups knowing that they are easy targets for you to critisize them later while at the same time getting sympathy from others for having been "victimized" by them. Wow, what an accusation, are you prepared to concede that perhaps he does not? Why put the word victimized in quotes? Is it a way of saying he was not a victim of a predatory cult?
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Quotecultmalleuszeusor, I can tell you one of the secret teachings is called "Honest to Whom" which is basically a justification for lying to "systemites" who, really, boils down to anyone who is not in their group. Indeed, it is one of the JC's most fundamental teachings that you must learn to lie to protect and defend the group. They start from the idea that Bible smu
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QuotezeuszorXenophone, I recieve with gladness your exhortation and thank God for it. I have been meditating and praying on this and it occured to me: first off , OK, I'm not Jesus, I'm not John the Baptist, nor am I Paul or some prophet. I am Jesus' disciple, as are you. Jesus is our example in matters of faith, dependance on God, as well as in the area of behavior and conduct
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QuoteXenophoneQuoteapostateHey, Apostate, go back a couple of posts. I already answered the question as to what kinds of ariticles are in the restricted access, so your scare mongering is a bit flacid. There is no Anointed Apostle aricle. BTW Like you I am an ex JC. No scare mongering happening here Xenophone, so no need to be so defensive of a group that is obviously a cult. As I cannot up
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Drats I wish I got to this site earlier. Interesting to see the "co-founder" of the Jesus Christians referring to himself as "co" something! I guess you have become more laxed Dave, and given some credit to someone else. One wonders who! Maybe you are being accepting of your wife's role in things these days. Good on you if you are. I always remember you telling
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