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17 years ago
emntk
Was Chris's father named Willis? And did he have a disctinct herbal aroma about him? :P QuoteRE: Dedicated or addicted On the subject of drug abuse by police, you may be interested to know of a conversation I had with Dr Willis Butler, a well-known physician, and cannabis legalization advocate in Honolulu, Hawaii. Dr Butler's father was also a physician, who in fact, founded
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17 years ago
emntk
I think Zelig's use of the word masochism said it best in that the analogy of the benign parent/child discipline is more appropriately defined as master/slave in an enforced sado-masochistic bdsm lifestlye. Head bags, 'tilly' stickers, toe-nail/foot excrement consumption, name calling, disatisfaction with voluntary services rendered and other abusive behaviors are more likely to be
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteRadha Krishna dasAs the Scriptures tell us only the most fallen and I believe that this would include one that has been dropped. Intelligent argument and consideration of facts are qualities of a Vaishnava. Please demonstrate that there are reasons that Srila Prabhupad and his devotees should not be judged by a few who are imperfect and have behaved as rascals. I believe the meaning of th
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteRadha Krishna dasClearly there is no reasoning with angry and destructive people. What reasoning? you just tried to sell us the same crap that we were silly enough to buy once. QuoteAs it says in Bhagavad Gita when lust is impeded it leads to anger. Lust is the pursuit of material desires such as wealth, fame, beauty, etc. Which is completely removed from the realities of spiritual l
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteRadha Krishna dasYour brother can choose to read this forum or to make contact with you or whomever else that he wishes. The fact is that like many of Srila Prabhupad's followers he would most likely be dead from the despair of a life without Krishna have no semblance of life outside of his current situation. Instructing someone as to their rightful actions according to the teachings of
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteRadha Krishna das Where is this lecture? This is unsubstnatiated blasphemy. You cannot prove that this lecture exists can you? If you have a copy of such a lecture why don't you publish it on-line to PROVE that Srila Prabhupad is NOT a bonafide Spiritual Master - a pure devotee would never say such a thing!! Here is the excerpt from the lecture. So you have made a claim agains
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
emntk
Quotezelig Damn! Those SALEM WITCHES pop up everywhere! Burn em! Drown em! Kill em! Uppity women deserve to die, eh Rasha Kishka das? Hey Zelig! good to see you're back. Hope you had a great trip. We've been having some fun :lol: Women are just too docile to understand and are condemned to hell for trying :twisted: Ash
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteRadha Krishna das Maybe it should from your point of view, but this has already been explained to you, and in truth my directives come from Srila Prabhupad who is a direct link to God. Your 'beloved' can leave at any time that he wants. No person is restraining him. It was made clear to him when he made his intentions with you known that he can make this choice, but he will not be
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
emntk
QuoteRadha Krishna das Does your audience and your "devotee" friends know that you are a mystic? Yes what is a mystic Ray? Where does it say that a mystic cannot be a devotee nor that it is anymore offensive than being for example a dress maker? If Cara was a mystic then i'd think that was kind of cool. Although your claim of this is rather unsubstantiated. A
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteRadha Krishna das I do not know what other groups do. They do not have a bonafide spiritual master such as Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa so I have no interest in their practices. So you are saying that this was a directive from butler? QuoteYou do not agree that one is better off to have a brain that is filled with God than thoughts of sex, empty material desires, delusions of movies,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
emntk
RKd I thought you were going to set everything right? Is your philosophy not as solid as you thought? :P Perhaps we need the man himself up in here. But he won't as Butt-ler lost all credibility if for no other reason than not surrendering to his own spiritual master since disciplic succession is his claim to the vyasasana. I bet he wishes he shaved his head now. He must have got the c
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17 years ago
emntk
Hi Just Googling (JG?), Me too. Sadly I speak from experience. :( Did JG expect you not to drink water? I found it difficult to fast on appearance days as I didn't eat much at the time. Once I even fainted while offering my obeisances before a lecture. Noone noticed and I came to and JG was speaking already. Obviously I was not told about the order but the rumor was JG himself had fas
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
emntk
Wow sexist too. Who am I helping by finding fault with your recruitment? Well I stated I was helping you. You see like Siddha I have studied advertising and my opinion was that you go back to deceiving people as the truth just won't sell. (I try to refrain from dating my clients as it reeks of unprofessionalism.) See you've just lost a good deal of your female target market with t
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17 years ago
emntk
"My baby is coughing... It's irrelevant... So why concern yourself with things that are not worthy to be concerned about?" Err.. this was a lecture Siddha gave on the unimportance of anything except Guru and Krishna.
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17 years ago
emntk
See RKD that wasn't so hard to be honest. I'll help you out. Now this cult of Siddha's involves brain-washing, eating toenails and not asking questions. Sounds utopian. I'm sure you'll get many followers from this. I mean how do you conclude that people are making up accusations of brain-washing people when in the next sentence you admit to it? Really they are just
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17 years ago
emntk
Quotejust-googlingWell said, emntk (Ashleigh?) Thank you - yep Ashleigh there's two broads on the board :D Cultreporter (Cara) is my best friend, we live together and my brother is the jackass heartbreaker - we call him Darth Vader (it suits him too) :lol: I actually had the 'pleasure' of being a student when Siddha was here. His last lecture to his Australian followers
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17 years ago
emntk
Hi RK das, As an enquiring mind I have a few questions for you. Firstly are you kidding yourself coming onto a forum designed for discussing cults in open manner with that bullshit introduction to promote your cult? I mean seriously are you really so blind as to how much of a foolish joke that makes you? Further, we all know you have known about this thread for sometime now and you chose this
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoterrmoderatorThe supernatural claims you say Randi cannot prove, no one has proven. No psychic powers have ever been proven through science with research results, which have been peer reviewed and published within any reputable scientific journal. Such claims typically rely upon and/or cite anecdotal evidence. There are many renegade scientist who prove empirical facts that are not ac
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
emntk
Your ability drivingthecar wouldn't stand up to the James Randi test even if it could be conjured at will. There are those that can but Randi as a so-called scientific searcher of truth doesn't make the results of his tests public. You see they are locked in a file cabinet in his office and yes you can apparently read them but you have to be in that particular place if you wish to ma
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteTheTruthAsItIsYes, my own life was severely damaged for years, and I am still struggling but each day gets easier, this board was part of a liberation for me, a way to try and understand. It was as if a veil was lifted from my eyes. I'm sorry to hear that. :( QuoteThis is a forum to say what you have to say. If you don't like what someone else has to say, argue it intelligen
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteTheTruthAsItIs Such fault lies not all at the feet of Siddha, give the dude a break: he bred a "company" that is making good healthy profits keeping expenses at a minimum eg low or no salaries, has made excellent sales willingly purchased by its members, and effectively avoided greedy government tax snares. What’s more he has reared a flock of narrow minded hypocrites that could ea
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17 years ago
emntk
It is not merely Australia that is experiencing this problem with children. It is scientifically proven that the happiest and most productive people are encouraged by parents to feel they are safe to learn from their own experiences and mistakes. The exact opposite of how parents are suggested to raise their own children in the cult. The kids are constantly cautioned, or perhaps you could ca
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17 years ago
emntk
QuoteTheTruthAsItIsI can tell you that at the darkest moments in my life, I could always call a faggot, and he would rock up with a tissue, a bottle of bleach to clean up (they think guys like me are total messes in the home), and a fuckwit grin on his face. Quote Ha ha ha! Oh, hands up all the heterosexual males on the forum who have a strange, unfamiliar gay man turn up to clean your house e
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17 years ago
emntk
I totally agree. The last twenty four hours I have been trying my best to get this thought out of my head. I spent several years in ASM even when siddha was in Australia. This is a complete violation. At times I was offered maha food like raisins and spices and such but to now know that the food had been cooked with water used to wash dirty feet and toenails is disgusting and a serious betraya
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17 years ago
emntk
I am guessing the exodus may be referring to Srila Sridhara Maharaja although I cannot confirm this, I have met one of his followers in Australia who has sugguested it to me as he also took issue with ISKCON and took in a lot of their ex followers. Seems to me that he is more into (what he thinks is anyway) the purer interpretation of the vedas and propogating that AC's teachings have been p
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17 years ago
emntk
Quotejust-googlingQuotecultreporter:wink: I wonder who did this? THIS IS BRILLIANT AND VERY FUNNY :lol: :arrow: :lol: I loved this! :lol: Especially the Personal on-line Guru at the bottom of the page. I was glad to hear that this is a work in progress and there is more to come. I was only on the edge of Science of Identity and didn't really get into it. One time in my life
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17 years ago
emntk
Thanks very much for all that, very interesting. Some accounts say that he even sufferred two heart attacks on the voyage to America, but I have not noticed this detail in any ISKCON bios available on-line. I have just started reading this book about ISKCON "Monkey On A Stick" -Murder Madness and the Hare Krishnas, which was written by two journalists and has been published free on-l
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17 years ago
emntk
I am very skeptical about the origins of the Hare Krishna movement. The story of AC Bhaktivedanta Swami travelling to America from India in 1965 with nothing but a couple of books and $12 and ending up opening over 100 temples travelling the world several times and effectively establishing a whole new religion (in the West at least) arouses the skeptic in me. To take a look at the culture
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