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13 years ago
Hopeful Soul
Steve989 posted this below on the PSI thread. I asked him via PM if he had any information on how Impact Trainings plugs into this historical network, but he said he was unfamiliar with Impact and would research it. It seems to me that Hans Berger was a Lifespring graduate. Also I have seen indications that Hans has had some poor health and may not be active in Impact any longer. Could anyone
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
Steve989
"How Large Group Awareness Trainings such as PSI Seminars and Landmark Education/Forum/Est began: This movement born in the end of 1940's, when USA government funded a research aimed to create an educative system based on most functional parts of existing methods in the various traditions spread around the world. They gathered information from great religions, great philosophers and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
wherefromhere
NOT GUILTY PART TWO .by Jackie Lee Singer on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 10:43pm.I began a letter and wrote and wrote and wrote. It was filled with emotion and zeal. However it was very long and I think written more for me than for anyone else. Then I went to save it and I lost the whole damn thing. Now some of you would say, ‘that is a sign, don’t do it’, but I would say, no, it was just too
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
TurningPointReject
Mike and Cyndi have left town under a shroud of secrecy. Elders are resigning. Staff are resigning. Jeff and Kim are running around apologizing to anyone willing to give them the time of day...or are they? Something happened between March 2010 when all the Elders in Unity launched Mike into his apostolic orbit and June 2010 just after Father's Day when the rocket ship came cras
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
buddy
Ten Reasons to Reject WORD-of-FAITH Teachings by Tricia Tillin When 'Positive Confession' first arrived in this country, it transformed some dead churches and struggling Christians. Many who had fought against the odds to survive as Christians found a new life of victory; the idea that believers were doomed to be the victims of circumstance and helpless in the face of satanic
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
buddy
Ten Reasons to Reject WORD-of-FAITH Teachings by Tricia Tillin When 'Positive Confession' first arrived in this country, it transformed some dead churches and struggling Christians. Many who had fought against the odds to survive as Christians found a new life of victory; the idea that believers were doomed to be the victims of circumstance and helpless in the face of satanic a
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
buddy
I have not received my phone call from Jeff Rock Barnes yet. I am still waiting. I ran into a person that still goes to TPCWOC the other day and they sounded like Jeff had not shared anything about the letter he received from the pastors in Marysville about the spiritual abuse and the teaching of heresy at TPCWOC. Also this person said false Apostle Mike Villamor is still active in being comma
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
buddy
No phone call from Jeff Rock Barnes yet! I pray and hope Jeff wants to bring back TPCWOC back to Truth. To make it right with all the hurt people is a good first step. TPCWOC still has links to PNBC(SOMA) where false Apostle Mike is still the President of the school. TPCWOC still has false Apostle Mikes sermons online. TP Skagit Valley Church still has false Apostle Mike and Cyndi on there Elde
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
TurningPointReject
This thread started in October 2008. It appears we have come full circle. It is none the less a sad day. So many have been hurt along the way. Several have completely walked away from church altogether. Lord, please, please, please draw those people to you and you alone. I do not know all the particulars, but have heard that churches have disassociated themselves from TPCWOC and have st
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
UndeniablyLivid
From the Marysville School District website: Summer Jubilee is Coming!... # Saturday, August 21 / 10:00 am – 1:00 pm Totem Middle School (Asbury Field) # Cascade Elementary School # Shoultes Elementary School Each location will have school supplies, food, and games. Fun for the whole family! Summer Jubilee is sponsored by local churches in support of students. My wife told me she heard
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
buddy
What will Jeff Barnes do? Cover up, spin, blame the enemy or tell the truth! Will Jeff Barnes open up and be honest and tell about everything to everyone what really is going on with TPCWOC. Will spin master Jeff Rock Barnes (Rock is the name Cyndni Villamor gave Jeff) be able to save TPCWOC from destruction without his spiritual father false Apostle Mike Villamor. Will Jeff keep hiding behind hi
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
dsm
Thank you. I think the CRHP group is using a lot of tactics that show up in the business cults. What they do is start out with a false need which they then define and to which the only solution is to join them. Their basic premise is that there is no "unity" and the only way to have "unity" is through their retreats. They train their people to sell their retreats with a vi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
shakti
OK, Margaret, let's do a rewind on this... (sorry, Rob, this will suck for you, but hey, Margaret requested it) Rob's intro to the board: "There are no links between Transition and the Steiner schools movement. There may be some people who are involved with Steiner schools who get involved with Transition and vice versa, but there is no Steiner thinking in the Transition ap
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
dsm
I posted a link from Unity in another thread... very interesting site. The manner in which the Church deals with things like the Legion of Christ can be confusing and it is good to remember that the Catholic Church is older than most of the countries within which these groups operate, and so there is a lot of local discretion left up to bishops. Some groups themselves are more monolithic than
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Oerlikon
Catholic sites on cult-related controversies: www.unitypublishing.com/NewReligiousMovements/ For the record, Unity Publishing is not a mainstream Catholic apologetics ministry. Almost all bishops, and the vast majority of priests, would not support some of these perspectives. On another note... Former priest John Paul Lennon says the Legion of Christ is a dangerous and ul
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
ostracizedone
The Word of Faith Movement and the Cultic Renewal of Indulgences By J. Danny Hone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps there is no greater perversion within the modern Charismatic movement than the perversions surrounding money and its doctrine of seed faith and the hundred fold return. In this article I do not want to discuss
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
dsm
Here is a Catholic article that might be overlooked by non-Catholics because the first section asserts doctrine and authority of the Pope that of course is weird to non-Catholics, but the last part is very important for its discussion of all the weird little groups that actually pull people into cult mind-control groups that are not Catholic but that masquerade and take advantage of Catholic tole
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
ostracizedone
Quotebuddy I can't believe all these pastors in town who preach the true gospel are in unity with false doctrine. I guess they figure if they don't talk about it and we don't think about it it doesn't exist. Some have been told but still continue support false doctrine. I don't get it. I guess the false doctrine of a authoritarian church by the covering of a false apo
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
Rob Wilkerson
Brother...I have no earthly idea of the answers to the questions you're asking. I'm so sorry. I am in no way any official spokesperson for New Frontiers...but only trying to convey information I know about since my partnership with them, in an effort to salvage a biblical sense of unity by negating this organization as any kind of cult. As I stated before, local churches determine
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
buddy
TPCWOC sermon for Sunday June 6th: Power of a Team: by Jeff The Rock Barnes Jeff says do you want to be on a bad team? Does anybody here want to be on a bad team? (around 14:15 )into sermon right after he shares how false prosperity City Church was helping with the TPCWOC small group life Jeff says , think of the times we have came together for summer jubilee, this is a total annointed ministr
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
shakti
For those unfamiliar with Steiner and Waldorf anti-semitism, here is a little primer. While it would be easy to say "his views on Jews don't invalidate his views on gardening, mysticism, etc. Walt Disney was a right-wing nut, but that doesn't mean his movies were bad", Steiner's views on Jews were not "separate" or "secret", but openly espoused and tie
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
ostracizedone
It has recently become popular to speak of "the five-fold ministry," a system of church government with apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. The neo-Pentecostal "Restoration" movement and its offshoot, "kingdom now" teaching, claims that one of the things which God is "restoring" to the church is this five-fold ministry. The sole prooftex
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
buddy
# leaders appeal for ‘unity’ to protect themselves from scrutiny/ appraisal False Apostle Mikes latest twit: New blog post up. What 9 year old soccer players can teach the church about unity: How about false Apostle Mikes photo op with the Mayor in the Philippians. And Mike wants to teach them the Apostolic ministry. Mike wants the spiritual authority, honor and money from the churc
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
ostracizedone
*Spiritual Abuse* is sometimes difficult to define. But in general it happens when: # ‘a leader with spiritual authority uses that authority to coerce, control or exploit a follower, thus causing spiritual wounds’ (Blue, p.12) # one or more persons in a relationship is damaged spiritually and such wounding or scarring affects their relationship with God so that they develop a distorted
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
Sandman
QuoteDoc Please, do a translation via google. Okay, here it is ... Quote: One thing to consider here is that the entertainment system, things like Holidays, holiday attractions, holiday packages, etc. will not be more what they are today, probably there will be no longer. Because these things are available because of money-making, which are not offered as a support and fun ... Este
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
LearningPoint
I guess after the "I Wanna Be a Billionaire" song, I have nothing more (than what I will write here) to say in appeal to Turning Point and its affilates. If that sick pitch for prosperity isn't blatant enough to concern the "unity loving" pastors and to cause them to speak up, then I don't know what is. It seems to me to be the most disgusting display yet of TP'
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
LearningPoint
Thanks for clarifying, onevoice. I just had a few thoughts in response. It would be nice if that one-big-happy-family church could exist on this earth, but the ideal you are speaking of has never existed, not even in the early church. Indeed, 1 John (if you haven't read 1 John lately, I highly recommend it) makes distinctions that show that the church will always need to be on guard, reje
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
buddy
Here is the deal, Jeff Barnes is kind of boring when it comes to preaching and lacks some knowledge of the Bible and you will only get sugar coated preaching from Jeff. Mike Villamor talks to much and says to many goofy things and brings alot of the problems on himself, so Mike is using Jeff and Kim Barnes hoping the Forum and all the problems will go away while Mike has went into hiding while h
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
buddy
TPCWOC Launch Service for false Apostle Mike and false Prophet Cyndi Villamor on Sunday March 14th is now online at TP Home web site. Its a historic service for Mike and Cyndi. You will hear testimonies of forgiveness, deliverance and healing in this candid interview hosted by the new Apostle of the city of Marysville, Jeff (The Rock) Barnes and his wife Kim. Mike says that TP has been a dream an
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
buddy
Sunday, March 14th, 10am - Launch Service Totem Jr High 1605 7th St, Marysville WA Launching Pastors Mike and Cyndi Villamor into their Apostolic calling These are truly amazing & historic days in the life of the church and the Movement. The vision that God gave Turning Point more than 13 years ago – to be a global ministry planting churches – is coming to pass. God has proven fait
Forum: Destructive Churches
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