Jackie was wronged by Turning Point Church World Outreach Center and its leadership when they falsely accused her in front a many many people. Thankfully the new leader apologized to Jackie but did the leaders take the next step and offer restitution? At the very least the legal fees that were incurred by Jackie should be reimbursed. And why the continuing silence on the issue of being a
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Hi Miki, The new pastor apologized for the wrongs done to Jackie in a public meeting in front of current and former members of TPC as well as pastors of other Marysville churches. She was exonerated of any wrong doing. This is a good thing in that Mike's persecution of Jackie is exposed for what it was -- a personal vendetta because Jackie had the audacity to stand up to him. Bottom li
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"If you get the chance try and make it to Jake's House for Week of Refreshing. There are still 3 sessions remaining. Tonight Pastor Jude Fouquier prayed and prophesied over Pastor Jeff and Holly as the new lead pastors for our church. There is great unity amongst the pastors of Marysville and Arlington!" Yuck. I am sure glad that not all of the area churches have jumped on th
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Turning Point Church World Outreach Center If you get the chance try and make it to Jake's House for Week of Refreshing. There are still 3 sessions remaining. Tonight Pastor Jude Fouquier prayed and prophesied over Pastor Jeff and Holly as the new lead pastors for our church. There is great unity amongst the pastors of Marysville and Arlington! ("Here we go again!" Some Jude
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@ LLG yes, you and several others involved in this mess have been essential in my recovery <3 along with prayer and some books I would highly recommend for those coming out of this group to be very helpful (you can even preview several pages on Amazon that will beyond a doubt help you see that it is pretty much word for word what happened in this group) in recovery are: Twisted Scriptures
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Quotezeebrook... Whilst some disdain the idea of an authority in a local church, one has to face the facts that there are those who rule in a local church, those who take responsibility for it to which other members submit. "The elders who rule well are to be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching." (1 Timothy 5:17). So an elder is
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To the Forum: In Hebrews 13:17 What is significant about peitho (peithesthe) is that it is not peitharcheo "to obey one in authority" What is also significant about peitho (peithesthe) is that it is not in the active voice. Peitho is in the passive or middle voice(determined by context). If peitho were in the active voice then the writer would be commanding the readers to activel
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QuoteBraveHeartbjw, The over whelming theme of the bible is reconciliation, God Reconciling man to himself. In looking at your guys Charles Ryrie, Bob George and MacArthur I see some of the basic similarities with all of these guys. This is completely false. Ryrie and George (and I know Bob George personally, he is a good friend of my Dad's) both disagree with John MacArthur and both ha
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bjw, The over whelming theme of the bible is reconciliation, God Reconciling man to himself. In looking at your guys Charles Ryrie, Bob George and MacArthur I see some of the basic similarities with all of these guys. Since you are not willing to take your rant to a deeper foundational level to state what the Christian faith looks like here is a simple basic outline of what Orthodox Chris
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These are not my experiences - they are our experiences. The Adventist church encourages members, at every turn, to accept Ellen G. White's plagiarized writings (including Steps to Christ, mentioned above) as divinely inspired, and further, to respect these writings as one would respect the holy Bible itself. The Adventist church is indeed concerned with members doubting the Spirit of
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I read the article referred to by The Petitor above. I do have concerns that SMC leaders aren't always aware of the great responsibility which they have when caring for children, both those in church families and those from non-church families. The problem is, as has been said on this Forum already, SMC is accountable to no-one above them; in other words, they have autonomy and they make
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More batty stuff about Merkaba and the earths ionosphere here in these citations Evidently people into this stuff are schooled in fear--fear of government, fear of mainstream 'self serving' religions, fear of losing their merkaba energy through anger.... Fear, fear, fear. Always something to do so one doenst lose one's energies. And an aversion for cilantro, fer crying
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Next part Small excerpt--This has to do with predictions QuoteA 3rd dimensional Solar Ascension is approaching and could occur at anytime between 2003 and 2012. Wondrous spiritual energies are now available all over the planet. However, one needs to be wary because the same service to self types who "nuked" the previous mass Ascension attempt are working in a variety of ways i
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Next part QuoteLord Melchizedeks desire privacy so they can give. Lord Melchizedeks train others to go forth to teach those who are ready to prepare for Ascension, then Lord Melchizedeks bilocate to help their teachers. and QuoteOne cannot Ascend into the Heaven and Paradise of the 4th dimensional Angelic Kingdom of Creation if one has any type of anger, hate or revenge stored in thei
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Part FIve This section mentions the dangers of anger--very important to control any group as anger is a threat to the status quo--Corboy. Mention is also made of Dr Usui in relation to the Reiki technique. QuoteA huge loss of Golden Spheres occurs whenever one gets angry at themselves. Anger from others is deflected by your spiritual energy fields of consciousness. However, anger at oneself
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My personal experience with Unity has been VERY positive. That does not exclude the possibility that someone may find a particular group that somehow operates as a "destructive cult". But I certainly cannot see how that could be directly connected with Unity itself. I would strongly recommend Unity approach to any person that likes/needs to follow a Christian path in his/her life.
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Hello Concerned Mother As Chesterk55 has posted above, the leader of the Struthers group at The Refuge is Scottish, from Glasgow, and spent 15-20 years in the Struthers Glasgow church before apparently receiving a call from God to move south and lead a group of people in the London area who had been coming up to Struthers Camps and conferences in Scotland for many years. She set up her group in
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From a deposition of Tony Cunningham May 14, 2009 You will all find this a good read especially those of you still attending Radiant Life. MR. ASCH: Okay. So spiritual parenting. What is that? Does that mean anything to you? WITNESS, TONY CUNNINGHAM. I have heard the term. Q. What does it mean? A. Well, having heard the term, I don't know what it means when s
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QuoteseekingsusanCould it be that these issues are only prevalent in some but not all of these sects ? There seem to be many offshoots now, which I list here ( i may have missed some ). Seems unfair to tar all leaders with the same brush. Maybe some are actually anointed but others are not. Anyone know what criteria an person should use in deciding whether a leader is anointed or not ?. Is t
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QuoteRensilThere have been several posts relating to the Cumbernauld branch of Struthers, but I'd like it to be known that the same controlling, favouritism and banning procedures occur in all the branch churches. Since every one of the leaders follow the same teaching and continually told us how much in unity the leaders are, then it followed that their treatment of members of their church
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There have been several posts relating to the Cumbernauld branch of Struthers, but I'd like it to be known that the same controlling, favouritism and banning procedures occur in all the branch churches. Since every one of the leaders follow the same teaching and continually told us how much in unity the leaders are, then it followed that their treatment of members of their church grouping a
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I was raised by a parent who considered RBT the perfect role model for parenting skills and the vision of an ideal man. As a result, physical affection, sentimentality and verbal expressions of affection were absent from my childhood. As a teenager I balked. If I were to pinpoint the root cause, I would say it was the virulent misogyny present in almost every tape I ever heard. I couldn’t wra
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QuoterrmoderatorCalvin Bontrager: It is against the rules of this message board, which you agreed to before posting here, to post contact information on the board. If you sincerely want to address concerns and questions about TPC you can do so here on the board openly. Please don't post your personal email information again. Perhaps some very basic questions regarding the objecti
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QuotemisleadsoulHum... how to begin? To be dreadfully honest I am stuck. I have grown up in the church all my life and visited every church possible in washington state. I don't know if my problem is just church or the people in the church, but I can't bring myself to ever trying to join a church. Everything I have seen is manipulative, self seeking, money hungery, lieing,selfserving ch
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The Five-fingered Ministry (October, 2000) "He gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of the ministry." (Ephesians 4:11-12) Any of the passages from the epistles, where Paul uses titles to identify various positions within the church, need to be taken with a grain of salt, i.e. we sh
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QuoterrmoderatorStoic's analysis seems to be spot on. Whatever is happening seems to be no more than a control device used by McKay to manipulate the JCs. Here's another article in that same vein: Thirty is a Dangerous Age (1992) A 60's radical once said, "Never trust anyone over 30." By the time most people reach 30, they have exhausted the ideals of yo
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'Today, the situation is quite different. Fewer people go to a church (especially if we include Europe). Secular life is the norm and not the exception, as in earlier generations. To better grasp the difference, I would suggest that the so-called "New Age" movement demonstrates the changes better than most. New Age churches (such as Unity) retain most of the Christian underpinnings
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Thank you Stoic and The Anticult!! "Love bombing" is exactly right. Re. New Thought, thank you for the links. I'm embarrassed to admit I have five books by Emmet Fox. No matter how much I tried, this stuff didn't work for me. If I could have back all the time and money I've wasted over the years on these books and seminars!!! Here's an excerpt from Fox's b
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"Private ownership of the mind and its products - of imagination or of memory - becomes highly immoral. " Robert J Lifton Quote from Swami Guru G website QuotePsychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton wrote that cults have these three characteristics: (note-Lifton's list of criteria is longer than the three items quoted here. Lifton's actual list are eight Milieu Control
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I discovered this review of the shack by a really really smart guy Norm Geisler. I hope there is not a problem with posting this The Shack: Helpful or Heretical? A Critical Review by Norman L. Geisler and Bill Roach The Shack: Where Tragedy Confronts Eternity by William P. Young (Wind Blown Media, 2007, 264 pp) is a New York Times best seller with well over a million copies in print. Li
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