Re: Jack Hickman
Date: April 02, 2011 04:08AM
Absolutely not, no way Marvin am I going to agree with you. While the people there may not be actively abusing their children, it's certainly not an advertised practice of the group, they are in no way NOT trying to manipulate people into behaving a certain way based on poor leadership, fear, guilt, and manipulation all tied up with a pretty and false bow called "love." Where ever possible, they are keeping their children from being educated in the public school systems, they use their hierarchy of clan heads, elders, and super clans to subvert the individual in all areas of life. This can include who you want to marry, where you want to live, what you want to do with your life, where you might buy a house, etc.
As with everything in this group, it is insidious.
They encourage co-dependency behaviors to keep people from leaving. They use fear of losing their own family members and being shunned. They have shown up at peoples doorsteps to try to dissuade them from continuing down whatever "path" they deem unworthy. They have covered up some issues between the adults that should have been handled by the cops, like home invasion! They actively discourage people seeking mental help services (probably to keep them from being exposed).
This is not just some froofy group of revelationists waiting for the Messiah.
They impose their ideals on individuals, shun those who do not drink the kool-aid, elevate those willing to act the poster children for the ideal of "perfection."
This is not a permissive group of people seeking the same ideals. It is a totalitarian group.
Should we judge them for their religious beliefs? That's your own issue. Beyond the religious or spiritual implications, they do not allow people to live their lives freely. That is a problem. That is why people are afraid for their family members. And they have every right to be.
Do not try to dumb down the serious mental abuse taking place in that group, regularly. Read any journal article out there, and it now talks about the dreadful and long lasting consequences of the school-yard bully. Not the one that knocks you around for lunch money, but the one that degrades you as a person, leaving deep and lasting marks.
Concerned has every right to be so, and using a very nice and utopian view of dealing with people, ie-do no harm, should not apply to a group that has 50k plus people reading this post because of the damage that has been done to them.