Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: Pninaruth ()
Date: August 12, 2011 05:56AM

[www.youtube.com]
I refuse to live in fear. Enjoy!
p.s. crazy ass bastard

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: justagirljh ()
Date: August 12, 2011 11:51AM

Pninaruth,
I don't believe it is physical harm people fear. It is losing every person in their lives who make up their families and support systems. As someone said, the older generation made the choice to join. Others, like me. were born into this group. I am in my 30's. It was extremely hard to "leave". Anonymity allows me to maintain the relationships i do have, as shallow as they are. Am I afraid of these people? Hell no. True, they have no power/control/balls.

eh. I don't know. I would like to know if the girl I spoke of is still involved. I believe she is. I hope not, though.

What I am angry about is the lack of support and protection for the children. That parents KNEW and took a payoff. That my friend's abuse came out, but everyone stepped back from it and said "not my problem". Or who knows, maybe she was told to shut up, or to make it go away after it was reported. I don't know. Someone said it: no one wants to get involved. I don't think this kind of abuse is the norm. Or maybe I just had a better than average family for this group. Like I said, hearing other accounts of abuse surprised me. I thought that what I witnessed was unique. I hoped it was. People in this group are so worried about stepping on someone's toes, about gossiping. Maybe the real reason for not wanting to report abuse is that it may expose the group. It pains me to hear these ather accounts. But I'm thinking that even if I did say something that nothing would have happened anyway.

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: damaged13 ()
Date: August 12, 2011 12:14PM

Thanks for that Pnina. I'd forgotten how that voice makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Basically that was 2+ minutes of him saying absolutely nothing, and I can just picture everyone sitting there in awe of his "wisdom" maybe some scribbling furiously to get it all down. If you have any more of them, I'd want to hear them. Perhaps one that gets across just how batsh*t crazy he was? Thanks again for sharing.

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: exfollower ()
Date: August 12, 2011 01:17PM

wow, he sounds so old and slow...

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: Pninaruth ()
Date: August 12, 2011 09:08PM

Yesterday I was email a bunch of Jack "teachings" So I started a blog and posted them.
jackhickmancult.blogspot.com
No Fear Folks!
Tell your friends! :)

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: Sallie ()
Date: August 12, 2011 09:40PM

Justagirl,

What you experienced IS a type of sexual violation. Do yo know that if someone shows a child
pornography then they are guilty of corrupting a minor? That's illegal.
Think of this....if a man in a park flashed his junk at you....he would go to jail. If the image you were shown was on the internet....those who showed it to you would be liable. There could be charges brought against them for violating the child AND for showing it to you.
I doubt that because you walked in on them that it wasn't a violation. The abuser was committing lude acts on a child and that's a crime. You're being forced to witness the act as well as the coverup is criminal.

The first time I found out about the ''turn your cheeck love fest'' that crazy Jack AND inner circle woman were having it had to do with a girl I hadn't met. All I knew was that a 9 year old girl was being repeatedly raped and Jack and ''INNER CIRCLE WOMEN'' thought that ''letting go...forigiving...loving'' the abuser was ''of god''. Imagine?

What kind of human freak of nature is proud of their ability to ''love'' and ''accept'' child rape.? The family. Those people. That's who.

That's harmed me. That damaged me. That interfered with my ability to determine right from wrong. You were a victim of their depravity. And yours was one of the better homes?

Gary Coons, Hicks, Smestad, Hove, Olsen, Utting, Delalio, Walsh, Ramu. These family members who are over the age of 48 are ALL RESPONSIBLE for this CONSPIRACY to CORRUPT THE MORALS OF MINORS.
At the least.
At the very least.
They've done worse.

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: Sallie ()
Date: August 12, 2011 09:41PM

Pninaruth,

You are a ray of sunshine.

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: Sallie ()
Date: August 12, 2011 09:51PM

He doesn't sound frightening. He doesn't sound scary. If a ''grown-up'' told me he was ''safe'' to be around then, as a child...I imagine I would have believed them.

Which parents told their children that it was safe to be around the harless old man? Who knows the answer to that?

Children who never read the 1981 article. Whose parents said he was a ''nice old guy'' Which children felt ''safe'' around him?.

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: Pninaruth ()
Date: August 12, 2011 10:27PM

You and I were in the same group. Hi Pnina Chevallard. I already lost my parents to this (they didn't protect us). I lost "friends" (who in hindsight weren't friends at all). I've already lost a lot. I have nothing left to lose. So I can stand up and say "NO MORE". Some people don't have that luxury. I understand that. But just do me a favor and ask yourself what you would if it was your child. That's where I'm at. I was abused. It sucks. I have children now, and in having them I became angry.

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Re: Jack Hickman
Posted by: Pninaruth ()
Date: August 12, 2011 10:28PM

Thanks! :)

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