Re: Theohumanity, aka Daniel Stacy Barron
Date: January 27, 2009 05:26AM
Hi Jos, hi Eric and everybody else,
I read your text with a lot of interest. I appreciate your ways of telling your own truths.
I started with EBE 2 years ago in Hamburg. I wanted to improve my own work as a therapist and also I liked the ideas in the Daniels first book. That s why I started. I appreciated my facilitator Christiane very much So I was interested in an open door day with Daniel. After this I was quite disappointed. Why? The answers were really simple, sometimes obstrusive, I do not know, why people pay 100,- Euro, besides they are really in desparation like me, specially in this time.
Still the time with the group and the work with the subpersonas were very intersting. I trusted Christiane so much I engaged in the one-week seminar. After a lot of inner criticism, which I put at an edge for the rest of the time I really felt great. It was a feeling and connection with other people on a really heart-level! I did not experience this before such a long time. It felt unusual, a bit unsecure but loving to myself and others. This was a great gift from these days.
There were 2 weddings within the workshop. One of them were my facilitator and her husband.
Last day Daniel put this marriage into the workshop as an issue. Said he should not have done this marriage, because there is so much co-dependancy in it.
I also was wondering, because it seems to me that here are some arenas of life not really fitting. But still there is so much intend in EBE to be free of co-dependancy and here we have facilitators.... so,I was interested how people work with it.
After some weeks every participant of the seminar got the following letter from Daniel.
I was totally upset. Not because of the content but the whole tone of it. Because I think the letter is written with no respect and a humiliation to the couple. Does anybody ask for the co dependancy to the paradigma?
This letter was the opposite of my experience of the seminar. It confused myself a long time and let me fall in all rememberances of my past as a real enslaved participant of a sect in germany years before.
I find and sense here the same words, attitudes and the not healed wound issue of heart and power as before. What a pity!
I put the letter in, because I have the feeling I am standing alone with my thoughts. I shall pay, that somebody explains to me why this is "Though love" (!), or search of course by myself why any Sentinel likes to speak like this and so on....
After all I want that people shall have all oportunities to make up their own opinions!!!
Still I appreciate the emotional healing work and would like to divide it from everything else which holds people back from their own freedom and power!
With Love to All!
Hello everyone ~~~~
i write to all of you who were at the Sex & Spirituality Retreat last
month. You all saw the terrible and empty ceremony with Christiane and
Michael. As a result of this, Elle, Gertrude, Gloria, Gabriele, and i
all confronted her on the obvious codependence that makes them cling
to each other without any real connection. We all said she must do a 6
month demed from Michael to work the next level through to healing,
and if she was not willing to do that, she would have to leave EBE
because we care about her too much to support the unhealth in the bond.
But rather than confront what she knows is a wound-based bond, she has
chosen to leave EBE. This is her right, of course. But she is telling
everyone she is leaving EBE to take consequences for what happened at
the Retreat, which is worse than a lie: it is a twisting of the truth
to make her look like she has integrity, when it shows she is simply
wanting to cover up the real truth of her refusal to face into her
fear of not being with Michael. This both causes me much sorrow and
much anger, and i want to use this to make sure you all get how
clearly this shows how codependent grabbing is one of the most
powerful drugs of all.
So.......we have to give up on Christiane because she has given up on
herself, and have given up on Michael because he is going all with
Christiane's decision like he is her child. If you are a facilitant of
hers you have a right to be angry and hurt, and i urge you to work
with these reasonable reactions. As a former protege of Heidi's, what
we have here with Christiane is another shake-out of the deep ways
both of their Premier Sentinels ran what they think is their HOH life.
Heidi understands this and is healing now, but Christiane refuses to
face into what is happening.
i apologize from the bottom of my heart for all of this, because in
the end it is my responsibility to make sure certified facilitators
are chosen as those who truly feel and embody the paradigm. Over the
years it has been so difficult to discover how many facilitators only
perform the actions of what looks like an embodiment of the paradigm,
and not actually feel it and live it as they say they do. At the same
time as all of you, i have had to learn this truth the hard way: it
has been my blind spot that i could not believe that someone could
actually 'perform' the paradigm: i have been proven wrong many times
over the years.
Please use this opportunity to get clearer about how difficult it can
be to really live what Theohumanity offers as a path: as we say
countless times, it is not for everyone. Make sure it really is what
you want: you as a being are more important than any paradigm,
including this one. That Christiane chooses to leave is sad, but her
right: i only mourn the effect of her decision with all of you who
work with her and have looked up to her.
In other words, the consequence of leaving EBE she gives herself for
displaying the emptiness of the bond to everyone, is that she is
leaving to be in the very bond she admits is so empty she has to leave
for being in it! A ten-year-old could see through this contradictory
so much love