Most of the Whitcomb family...soon to be all of the Whitcomb family.

people left at rlc...

How can you sit there and allow yourselves to be abused, decieved or misused?
Are you asking questions, or are you going to continue to bury your heads in the sand and hope that this all just goes away?

this is just a partial list that is being posted here, I am more than positive that if we go back to the late 1990's we would see even more family's who left or were discarded along the way...

How can you possibly justify ignorance and not call into account all of this carnage? How does looking at this long list of men, women, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, friends and aquaintences get reconciled in your mind or heart? Why do you folow the hired hand with such seemingly blind devotion and trust when behind you lay the abused, broken, bruised, disillusioned, disheartened and forsaken.

Do not allow yourselves be abused, decieved, misled or misused any longer... look for, no, demand the TRUTH, you deserve nothing less than honesty from the one or ones who; claim to want to "lead" you in your walk with the Lord, those who claim to be your "Spiritual Father's", or the hired hand/"Apostle" that claims to have been given 'special instructions' that he doles out very deliberatively and strategically via a step by step process...

1. If you are asking questions and are not getting answers, have the intestinal fortitude to talk to someone on this list... chances are, more than naught, you used to love or call someone on here a friend!
2. If you are being told "it's not me/us, it's the fault of the hundreds of people who have left"... I don't care who you are that's a lot of people leaving!!!
3. If you are being told that "those people on the forum are just angry, bitter people lying and being led astray"... If being led away from lies, deceipt, false or abhorent teachings and a lack of both true relationship and coorporate and personal responsibility by the rlc leadership is "being led astray"... GUILTY!
4. If you have been told "Stay away from that guy or that woman, or guard your heart against so and so, they're dangerous"... who are we dangerous to? God? God's plan? I don't think so... the hired hand? Maybe, but until the leadership chooses to address this forum and/or the issues that have been raised by the folks here there will be no repentance or restoration.

You need to check yourself and your spirit - as far as I know, everyone here at one point or another has gone to a pastor, elder and even to the hired hand himself and tried to bring their concerns... but they were either rebuked, rebuffed, maligned or rejected at every turn. Make sure you get both sides of the story, don't believe the hype or spin you receive from the platform. If even 1/4 of the issues raised here are true, and the leadership continues to hide, deny and blame everyone else... rlc is a spiritually scare place to be these days.

Please do not follow blindly, measure every teaching and message against God's word and measure the every tree by the fruit.



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Gentle Readers:

Most of you have been needlessly bashful in posting your thoughts in this forum. Perhaps you are frightened into silence by the prospect of legal retaliation (real or imagined).

May I offer my humble suggestions?

1. Type the word “libel” into your favorite search engine, and gain a layman’s understanding of the legal definition of this word. Then do due diligence in avoiding libelous statements.
2. Talk to your insurance agent. For a nominal annual fee you can upgrade your homeowners and auto policy to a $1 million umbrella liability policy. Typically, umbrella policies cover claims of libel and slander. If you obtain this insurance, you instantly have a team of top-notch attorneys who are eager to defend you against scurrilous charges (Insurance companies are notoriously greedy and selfish. They don’t want to lose one dime to the plaintiff).
Apart from the RLC issue, it is wise to have an umbrella liability policy anyway. California is the most litigious state in the country and the US is the most litigious country in the world.
3. The Rick Ross forum has safeguards to protect the identity of the innocent. You can contribute to this forum in complete anonymity. They can’t sue who they can’t find. Of course, you may wish to divulge your true identity, but perhaps you should not if you intend to run for public office someday.
4. Trust God. If you take a stand for the LORD and for his righteousness then you will surely prevail under his protection. Guaranteed.

So jump in. The water’s fine. The roaring lion has no teeth.

P.S. Some of you sensitive souls are worried that a fellow blogger may say some unkind thing about your contribution. I assure you that rrmoderator has done a yeoman’s job in keeping discourse civil and on task. Besides, we’re nice people here.

Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked.

RickRoss forum has been challenged on these issues already and prevailed. It is your 1st amendment right to speak out. RLC is in the public eye and therefore subject to public scrutiny. There are many steps that have to be taken legally before you can even go forward with a libel case. It is almost 100 percent that it would never happen with what is going on here, especially because it is a religious institution and the large number of witnesses to the information provided on here. Speak up people. It is not only your right but your obligation. The Constitution of the United States is a great thing.

Do you guys remember when people starting tithing a second tithe straight to Tony because he, in so many words, was a better steward of the money than they were? I remember Tony telling us about it in a SOMA class in 2003, asking us if that wasn't a good idea. Obviously, bad, very bad idea. Anyone know who all participated in that? How much money may have been "gifted" to Tony?

We need to add
Stephany Stevens and Family
Tiffany
Zack Isaac
Bill Chapman & Family
Mike Gunn & Family
Phillip Stark & Family
Dennis & Gloria Bender
Paul Melnick & Family
Terry Walters & Family
Ella Washington & Family
Lisa Daggs
Ashley Bergin
Levert Bryany
Tony Funtanilla
Ed Gillespie

.........some may not be recognized because they came for a season and were smart enough to get the heck out before the mess hit the fan

I'm not sure how many of you realize that Tony and the elder's problems go way back to even when the church was called Elk Grove Community and was at the school on Elk Grove Blvd and Elk Grove-Florin Rd. What is occurring now is just growth from something that happened between moving from the Dino Dr. location to the school. Somewhere in that timeframe, Tony changed, Greg Huth changed, and the rest just followed along like little dumb sheep. Tony & Greg either fell under some outside instruction, that they took to heart, or they started listening to a voice other than the Holy Spirit's.

I watched at Dino Dr. as Greg Huth went from a friendly guy, walking the aisles, shaking hands, to one you would never see greeting anybody again. That happened overnight, way back at Dino Dr. Strange teachings from the pulpit began to be taught. There were many key families who left during that time, some in leadership. They would not be surprised today to see what has unfolded.



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Updated List:

There are 152 families listed here, representing approximately 481 people.

Adlesperger, Leslie
Agius, Dave & family
Ampey, Greg & family
Anderson, Marc & family
Ari - SOMA
Arnaz
Barrientos, Kristen & family
Beckner, Tammy
Bender, Dennis & Gloria
Bennett, Ken & family
Bergen, Ashley
Bianchini, Mario & Karen
Bianchini, Nichole
Blanton, Jim & Marilyn
Boline, Aaron & family
Bollinger, Ken & Janet
Borsic, Tom & family
Box, Jerry & family
Brown, Greg & Vicky
Bryany, Levert
Burke, Joel & family
Burke, Sean & family
Burke, Steve & family
Byrd, Petri & family
Cantrell family
Carr, Dave & family
Chapman, Shirley
Christensen
Clay, Aaron & family
Corpe, Michael & family
Cregar, Cory & family
Croco, Russ & Marie
Cruz, JJ & family
Daggs, Lisa & family
Davis, Dan & family
Davis, Jim & family
Denberger
Deschaves, Mike & family
Diaz, Kiki & family
Doherty, Brian & family
Duffy, Ken & family
Elliott, Dan & family
Engstall, Kari
Figueroa, Ray & family
Flores, Antonio & family
Flores, Moses & Rachel
Fredericks, Chuck & family
Funtanilla, Tony & Debbie
Gallegos, Dave
Garcia ??
Gardner, Dave & family
Garibaldi, David & Joy
Gillespie, Ed
Goslin, Ken & Sue
Greer, Adam & family
Greer, Jeff & family
Grosjean, Josh
Grossjan, Lisa
Gullion, Jacob & family
Gunn, Mike & family
Hemsworth, Michael & family
Holmes, Richard
Hoover, Mike & Monica
Hughes, Chris & Bethany
Isaac, Zack
Jinkerson, Bill & family
Jones, Greg & Heather
Kavouras, Anthony & family
Keeshan, Ethan & family
Kidwell, Dennis & family
Kitay, Al & family
LaMar
[L], Joe & family
Lasiter, Jeff & family
Law, Ed & family
Lazalier, Ryan & family
Love, Aaron & Gina
Mack, Debra
Magdangal, Wally & family (Pastor)
Majewski, Mike & family
Mancillas, Jesse & Dale
Mancillas, Jesse Jr.
Mancillas, Samuel
Marks, Darold & family
Mars, Ashley
Mathieson, Scott & family
McCullough, Scott & family
McKurtis, Seth & family
Melnick, Paul & Pam
Michalek, Matt & family
Michelle - SOMA
Mikulin, Tim & family
Millar, Joshua & family
Millar, Kathy
Miller, Brandon & family
Miller, Jim & Linda
Morrissey, Joe & Lawna
Ott, Dennis & Leila
Ott, Jacob & Jenica
Otto, Don & family
Palmer, Ryan & family
Parr, Zach & family
Petrali, Tony & family
Plant, Daniel & family
Plummer, Juston & family
Reta, Bridget & kids
Reta, Kevin
Rich & Rene
Richards, Jenni
Richards, Mike & family
Richards, Steve & Beverly
Ringer, Emily
Ringor, Justin & family
Ritzema, Rohn & Jane
Romandia, Ed & family
Ruiz, Michael & family
Russell, Harry & family
Rutledge, Darrin & family
Schenkenberger (?)
Silva, Justin & family
Simon, Bill & family
Simon, Scott
Singh, Shish & Jagir
Sirard
Stark, Phillip & family
Stevens, Stephanie & family
Stewart, Ken & family
Stillwell, Greg & family
Stone, Rod & Sharon
Svoboda, Sandi
Taylor, Caitlin
Tharp, Chuck & Family
Thorpe, Jason & Erin
Tiffany
Tiller, Shane & family
Vertue
Vierra, Jim & family
Vigario, Mark & family (?)
Walter, Phil & family
Walters, Terry & family
Walton, Bruce & family
Wanner, Matt & family
Washington, Ella & family
Watson, Rick & family
Webb family
Whitcomb, Randy & family
White, Mike & family
Whorton, Jenny
Wilson, Tom & family
Wong, Santo & family
Yun, Chris & family
Zamora, Arnie & family



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This I do know
If you were to go to a Licensed Credentialed Christian Marriage Counselor (Something Tony is Not!) They would tell you that a man looking a porn is lusting after what he sees and according to the Bible that lust is sin. But a woman carrying on an emotional relationship with a man is just the same. yes that emotional lust is often times more powerful than the visual lust of a man. After all God made women more emotional than men.

So I can say with all confidence that Tony is having not only and emotional relationship with his so called Spiritual Daughters but he is also having a Spiritual Emotional Relationship with them.

To the point that these married women (Spiritual Daughters) are more devoted to Tony than there own husband. So applies to all the remaining Sycophants Pastors & Elders wives i.e Kelli Huth, Kathy Skinner, Shea Pang, Alice Lee, and Joel Arpilleda's wife and Tom Kimbell's wife, Loretta Sealers and Mrs. Feist and my personal favorite Aubrey Stewart.

These ladies become more emotionally devoted to Tony than to there own husbands and these guys have this choice, ether suck up to Tony and follow Tony like a sycophant or they get cut off!
This is the spell and fear that these emasculated men are under!
This is where Tony will encourage a woman to divorce her husband if he becomes non compliant to Tonys whims.

This is the Jezebel Spirit!
Tony Embodies that spirit!

Remember this to be in Tony Inter Circle you have to be attractive or affluent.


1) But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.
(2) People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, parents, ungrateful, unholy,
(3) without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good,
(4) treacherous, rash, conceited,¤ lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—
(5) having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
(6) They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, (young beautiful women)
who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,
(7) always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.
(8) Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.
(9) But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

2 Timothy (3:1-9)

Oh and going back to the Tree analogy Tony is that worm!

Look at this growing list of people who have been spiritually hurt Spiritually Abused and Manipulated.

Tony are you that much of a coward that you will not face all these people who are dear Children of God.

"To the angel of the church in SACRAMENTO Thyatira write: These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.
I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first.
Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate TONY CUNNINGHAM that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess AND APOSTLE. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.
I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she TONY is unwilling.
So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.
I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.
Now I say to the rest of you in SACRAMENTO Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan's so-called deep secrets (I will not impose any other burden on you): Only hold on to what you have until I come.
To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations-
'He will rule them with an iron scepter; he will dash them to pieces like pottery' - just as I have received authority from my Father.
I will also give him the morning star.
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
(Revelations 2:18)NIV

I would start paying close attention to the health of those who remain
how many have skin disorders and heart issues?