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RLCrecoverer
There are stil elders trying to bring change butv are slowly getting burned out and kicked out like matt wanner.So i wouldnt cast blame on all elders i dont think that is fair some of hem have repented. Yes there are some that are bringing harm and they seem to be the winning party.
I understand this and I have to say that I think that those who are stepping up have our support and prayers. I will also say this, this crap has been going on for YEARS and their responsibility has been to oversee the church and they have failed. It seems that it is actually to late to try and bring order, therefore they are being snuffed out and rejected. I feel bad since it was my understanding when I first joined the church that the Wanners where REALLY close to the Cunninghams. This action of throwing out Matt, is just proof positive of the certain betrayal that happens when you decide to confront the "man of God".
As to the allegation that we were trying to get in with the "in" crowd:
First off, the statement is wrong considering that Matt and Ryan WERE in with the in crowd and decided that it was crap! I can see where that might be perceived as true for my part. I will say that there were times that I tried to get in with the "in crowd". I was told that was the only way to grow in ministry and I believed that lie. When I reallized I had to compromise morals and integrity to get in with those people I decided that I would much rather not. I was not bitter, I was glad that I was not sucked in a much as other people.
Also for the RLC club to nod and hum agreement to that mans statement proves how screwed up they are. They were agreeing that there was an IN CROWD??? Well has anyone ever heard of the verse in Galatians just before the fruit of the spirit verses???? In a nutshell it says the acts of sinful nature include FACTIONS... Thats right my friends cliques, it is a sin....See below
Galatians 5:16-21
16So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 17For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20
idolatry and
witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions,
factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2008 11:37PM by Escapee07.