i have to correct my posting above:

i am not shure if Tomek was the author.

But i remember exactly that he recommended that book in a summercourse in EC, then the book was in the bookshop of the course and in the center

maybe a other person knows for shure who was the author

letif Wrote:
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> i have to correct my posting above:
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> i am not shure if Tomek was the author.
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> But i remember exactly that he recommended that
> book in a summercourse in EC, then the book was in
> the bookshop of the course and in the center
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> maybe a other person knows for shure who was the
> author

I looked up Tomek Lehnert on Amazon and there was the book 'Rogues in Robes', so I think you are correct, he is the author.

Tomek Lehnert has always seemed a strange figure within the Diamond Way cult. Ole Nydahl is horribly homophobic and makes no secret of it, and yet Tomek Lehnert is himself gay I think? Perhaps he has internalised self-hatred or he likes the power of being in the inner circle too much, especially with Ole Nyhdahl's declining health.

Does anyone know what happened to another member of the inner circle of this cult called Caty Hartung? She was Ole Nydahl's extra-marital affair partner for a long time, then I think Ole Nydahl was more open about that after Hannah died. I know since I left it has changed and since then Ole Nydahl has had multiple other affairs and two failed marriages, so I wondered where she is now.

Who else is in the inner circle these days? Every cult has one. They will be the key figures fighting for control of the cult as Ole Nydahl slips further into dementia and eventually passes away.

You write a lot of interesting things and I just want to correct one point:

Tomek was definitely not gay, he was always surrounded by lots of women who absolutely wanted to sleep with him because he was so "blessed and had good karma"... he enjoyed this very much..

As for Caty, just have a quick look on google, she now does psychological counseling and coaching.

On the Europe Center's Facebook page there are two short videos from the summer course, in which Ole can be seen: massive dementia, very tragic.

There are also videos and photos on Facebook facebook.com/sharminubling of the courses (and Karmapa's entire trip through Europe), where Ole can be seen several times.

Rogues in Robes by Tomek Lehnert is about the Karmapa Controversy, not Islam. Besides, he died five years ago, and was surely not gay.

That book about Islam was more like a booklet, and it was sold in the shop during Ole's courses and lectures.

Caty was removed from her position as Ole's close associate/right hand following a major disagreement between them in 2015. I don't know the details. She left DW then, but remained Karmapa's student. Although she played a definitive role in making Diamond Way become a huge international organization, now her name is not even mentioned on its Wikipedia page.

Thank you letif and gatis for updating me. I was not aware that Tomek had died and Caty had left. I'm glad to hear Caty got away from the abusive Ole Nydahl.

It's funny to me to hear that Tomek was in fact straight! When I was in Diamond Way it was commonly said to me as a way of excusing Ole Nydahl's homophobia that "He's not homophobic because he has a gay friend".

Tomek was hard working man for the dharma, but only thing about him I know that he took young females to dinners. Never saw the guy mingle with a woman, but then again he was sick for how long idk, maeby that regressed his personality and life in general for over a decade.

Actually one occassion comes to my mind when Lama Ole Nydahl was holding lecture, then he suddenly shouted to the crowd on his loudspeaker:

"Hey look Tomeks taking a lady to a dinner, Ive never seen it before (hahahahahah - laughing was Ole)!"

I thought it was a bit weird to call Tomek out like that. He was such a chill guy and seemed to do his work. They must have really twisted personal relationship between Tomek and Ole. How Tomek stayed sane so long with him is a wonder.

Hi there!

My first post here lol. If I have bit of time I might share my story one day (but I'm a bit scared of my privacy as it might be easy to figure out for them who I am)

I saw Caty Hartung in Manchester on teachings of Karmapa. She was there with some boyfriend and she seemed fine and happy.
I joined few years after she was kicked and I remember they were talking about her very badly and they were happy she was kicked... they were saying that she wanted more and more power and started making decision behind Ole's back. Who knows...

As for who is in inner circle, I cannot confidentely say, but it seems like travelling teacher from Czech Republic Petr Jevos is very very close to Ole. I'm not afraid to say that he might play a key role once Ole passes away.

Another travelling teacher who had a lot of influence when I was in the cult (he was not quite the inner circle at the time but he might be now) is Steve James. He became famous in Britain with the wider public for spreading anti-vax conspiracy theories during the pandemic.

People seem to not know that Caty came from a rich family, she had everything. She was ONLY in DWB cos he was Ole's hook up. She has no talent in dharma, she just got the biggest trophy for her (Ole), and must have been smiling a lot inside cos she stole Hannahs position. I dont know why Hannah stood up with this guy, I guess she was too hooked on following the Karmapa. No woman should put up with Ole's harem antics, its only plays for Ole not the lady whose "just another hook up" for him. When Caty and Ole ended their relationship she surely tried to build a life for her pride, in dharma work like holding lectures she has no value at all, she is not gifted in meditation, she was just a good genetical humanbeing from the top level of the 6 realms of existence. When she lost the trophy position she slowly lost her ground. She tried to monetize on the sangha members like acting as a jobs office which had nothing to do with the dharma. Now she has come down hard after break up with Ole trying to patch up a "dharma cv", cos she gave her life for working for DWB so long and then when she quit she had nothing. She was trying to play for herself only when she realized shes not Oles sweet lady anymore. Mustve been one hell of an ego trip for her going down the rollercoaster. She did do some lecture trips on her late days in the sangha, and I must admit it could have hurt her ego when she realized shes not that much of a draw like Lama Ole was. Women are often more fixated on titles and such than men.

But in the end she worked for the dharma quite a long time, so hats off to her.

People on DWB are not the best class of genes, they are mostly humans, animals and below on the 6 realms. Its unfortunate that Ole couldn't teach them any good style cos he himself was just a donkey on the podium mostly as I saw, a cult like leader with too many offtopic things to market on which had nothing to do with the buddhist practice. Maeby they should teach rightful conduct in the sangha, but would it help idk. The problem is that when someone "mid tier humanbeing" hears all the undecoded non-sense in "magical like terms" they often build high sand castel for themselves and start building huge ego of "rightful high nosed hypocricy" of thinking they are right in everything in the world. Although its mentioned often that "Buddha" is not a god nor human its a state of mind, many people give the teacher god like status, and think everything they do is somekind of high wisdom but fail to really get anything meaningful out of it in the long run.

I must agree on the covid scam tho, never took a single jab and never will.



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