Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: DaWatcher ()
Date: October 15, 2021 07:54PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> I guess that since the bar is set very low, she
> passes for a superstar.

Her boobs aren't big. Male traits. Effeminate husband ...

> The Wailana videos are getting more and more
> elborate. I guess there must be some extra money
> from Tulsi’s campaign.

Singing Maha Mantra and "Lay me down" by the bed and the fireplace in the pajamas has no special relationship with the service of Gopis, Kinkari and Manjari or the games of the Krishna cowherd boys. That is not Asta Kaliya Lila etc...

> People watch the vidoes and think it is amazing.
> They must have very solid ears.

Singing lessons from Lord Vader.

> The corruption has gone too deep to be rectified.

By the way, some crucial explanation:

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*Dasha Hara is a Sanskrit word which means removal of ten bad qualities within us:
*Ahankara* (Ego)
*Amanavta* (Cruelty)
*Anyaaya* (Injustice)
*Kama vasana* (Lust)
*Krodha* (Anger)
*Lobha* (Greed)
*Mada* (Over Pride)
*Matsara* (Jealousy)
*Moha* (Attachment)
*Swartha* (Selfishness)
Hence, also known as *'Vijaydashami'* signifying *”Vijaya”* over these ten bad qualities.

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*Mada* (Over Pride)

Farewell.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: October 16, 2021 02:31PM

This is your farewell gift Dawatcher. Frameit and hang it in your washroom.
Because this guru does not belong on the altar but in the toilet.
Form quotesman:


"You are all demons, you are just like fucking ISKCON, You’re all
condemned!!!"


"I am not condemning you, you are condemning yourself."


"My Godbrothers in ISKCON are clumps of dog stool.”


"If I don’t want to answer you, you are at fault not me.”


"If you don’t know you are not supposed to know.”


"Tell that asshole the only way he can come to a gathering is if he pays 100
dollars each time.”


"Tell asshole I changed my mind, he has to pay 1,000 dollars every gathering
he comes to.”


"As soon as you realize you have nothing to offer me and you don’t know
anything maybe then I can teach you something.”


"It is your fault, the guru is faultless.”


"My disciples make me sick.”


"You would think with 25 kitchen servants and 35 preparations a day,
spending over a hundred dollars a meal, you a##holes could make something
good to eat. Instead I have to go to a Chinese restaurant to get a bite to
eat. Assholes!!!’"


"You fool! Don’t say the metal detectors are to detect guns, say they are to
detect beeper watches, you know what a great offense it is to wear one near
me. Oh I am so irritated by that sound!!!”


"Damn it keep your gun in your bead bag. That’s what it is for idiot!! You
probably thought you were supposed to keep beads in that bag. Fool!!! I
have to teach you guys everything!!!”


"WTF is asshole doing here, tell him to get the fuck out of here.”


"Tell J--- I don’t want to see his face, but because I have to talk to him
and deal with him, he can wear a bag over his head, then I don’t have to
see his face.”


"I am more humble than anyone, even my own guru."
"Damn bogus guru! They all have guruitis."
"My disciples all have guruitis too!!!"
[“Guruitis” is a term Butler used to describe a follower who is envious and wants to be a guru. Of course no one can be guru but Butler alone.]


"My disciples are all fucking neophytes.”


"Everyone has guruitis but me and VD.”


"Insulting VD [Vaishnava dasi aka Wai Lana] is worse than insulting me you idiot.”


"Are those assholes still running that store in Lahaina, why don’t they give
it to DTE, assholes--- and they call themselves my disciples make all kinds
of money while their kids skate and surf, assholes, they should give it to
me.”


"WTF!!!!.. you guys have been working on getting this house together for 6
weeks now. You expect me to live here after you shit all over it??? You
missed a space there dumb shit, cover it with tin foil so I can live here
in peace. Straighten out your germ mask idiot.”


"Tell Sankirtan das to stay out of my house, he has dirt between his toes.”


"Tell Wayne and Krishna das [Mike Gabbard], WTF, I let them get into politics and now they
act just like politicians!!!! They became politicians those buttheads!!”


"I let my disciples dress like karmis and materialist and now they act like
karmis and materialists, assholes.”


"Call the head of personal service, everyone fast for 6 months, the milk in
the refrigerator is out of date. Call a meeting worldwide. Tell the head
of personal service to get her ass here right now!! WTF is this hair doing
in my soup gaddamit. Tell everyone fast for a year, six months is too
lenient. Tell the head of personal service not only must she fast from food
and water she has to fast from sleep too!!!” Get that shit out of here,
you call that prasadam, assholes!!!” Everyone is fined 1,000 dollars each.!!!”


"You spend a fuggen 100,000 dollars on this air machine and I still have to
use an oxygen bottle, can’t you guys do anything right??”


"What you expect me to breathe, common air?? Assholes!!”


"What? Just because you come here and clean my floor and wash my dishes,
eat my toenails and drink my footwater you think you have the right to talk
to me, write me a letter a-hole.”


"The only person I can trust is VD [Vaishnava dasi aka Wai Lana].”


"The guru is never attached to the opposite sex."
"Where is VD, I have not seen her in the last 10 minutes."
"What you think I spend all my time with my wife because I am attached?
Asshole this is pure devotional service, me and VD will serve together in
the spiritual world too, you envious snake!!”


"The pure devotee is peaceful and does not need anything or anyones
service, he has Krsna."
"The pure devotee is self satisfied, always peaceful and never troubled by
the duality of the world."
"The servant of Krishna has no enemies.”


"What is that asshole doing here, I told him get the hell out of Hawaii and
go back to New Zealand.”


"Ok you can take off the bag now, I think you learned your lesson

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: DaWatcher ()
Date: October 16, 2021 03:16PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> "You would think with 25 kitchen servants and 35
> preparations a day,
> spending over a hundred dollars a meal, you
> a##holes could make something
> good to eat. Instead I have to go to a Chinese
> restaurant to get a bite to
> eat. Assholes!!!’"

That is the gist. Creating idols ends up arousing apotheosis in sheep, so in the simplest activities there will be a load of irrationality. They will bring milk in a golden bag washed for 10 hours, but the tired will leave it, they will go away and others will be afraid to move the stale milk in the guru's fridge because it was brought in a golden bag. Whatever she meant. And the paranoia is getting worse. There is better Chinese cuisine in the end. Where the meat is prepared. From the Chinese set of domestic animals.

This mechanism was visible in Poland. This means that the entire system of psychological motivation and discipline is flawed. And the fruit is appropriate and should come as no surprise.

Tadana & Lalana. In tradition. There is chastizement but there is affection..

Trying then as a leader to somehow handle with this phenomena is a hell of is kind.

Of course important in this is women role. In sentymental play their attraction was not only or at all spiritual. There were even symptoms of - virtual - but still sexual attraction to their picture guru. Always young...

FAREWELL.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: October 16, 2021 06:55PM

We cannot let butler’s main men get away. We must also give credit to the cult leader’s co creators. The secondary false idols.
So let us talk about johnny midgett aka balakhilya das.
The entity who travels to all the centers in the world.
Treated like a superstar. Most worshipsble lord after butler.
The one who watches abuse going on at many centers and never stops them.
Who cares about devotees being treated like dogs as long as the center leaders are rich and can do outreach?
Just chant, ski, mountain bike and be happy.
Outreach and wailana sweatshop is all that counts. Who cares if devotees go and cry to him at every single retreat.
The coward who has let sincere souls get banned for a few years and suffer.
And thinks that this kind of punishment is normal.
He is too busy trying to protect and love his son in law and daughter.
Possibly the only people he truly cares about aside from his schizophrenic master.


Bellord, aka Rama Krishna das. The entity who handed his wife to butler. He must have zero self respect that poor guy.
He is also the main guy behind the Wailana sweatshop.
He is one who hands over his own wife and dares giving marriage advice to other devotees.

Tibby, aka Acarya das the entity who is too busy laundering money in the service of Krishna and hiding the hasish smuggling.
Attacking Narayana Maharaja for stealing one of their good and faithful slave.
The one who dared teaching a much greater Vaishnava born into bhakti yoga(close associate of ACBSP), spiritual etiquette.
While his own master was just a kundalini yogi, surfer dude, raised atheist, communist.

And a special reward to Madhavendra Puri dasi:
The infamous disciple who destroyed my faith and enthusiasm as well as many other people’s.
The person who is behind my leaving a path I once loved and threw me into the worse of situations.
A person who like midgett, mostly cares about her own family.
One who facilitates the wailsna swestshop.
A person who installed so much fear into the hearts of devotees who wanted to leave her center, that they had to pray to Lord Nrshimhadeva.
The person who thinks she has the right to ban sincere souls for 3 years.
A person who would gladly kivk you in the stomach when you are flat on your face.
A true representative of her “dog house method master”, the spiritual ceasar milan.

To my eyes you and other disciples such as yourself are a spiritual virus.
I do not think if Krishna is truly a kind being, is looking upon any of you with pleasure.
The days of carefree corruption are over.
Time to expose the illegal immigration that has been going on for years.
Importing free labor from Canada, Eastern Europe...
People staying there for 10 years without a green card.
Green card arranged marriages.
I guess they should carefully consider this fact before they ever dare suing one more soul.
I am sure you all know about but were too decent to mention it.
This will look pretty amazing on Tulsi’s resume.
Ok enough energy spent on this cult of shame.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: DaWatcher ()
Date: October 16, 2021 07:49PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> Just chant, ski, mountain bike and be happy.

And train your guru's students in such a way that the sanyasin legend on the retreate should be accepted with dignity by placing him in the hotel corridor ...I know. Later gave him a room..

> He is too busy trying to protect and love his son
> in law and daughter.

Great, Hhe finally protects his daughter. And not like when she was 14 and his holy brother SV was stuffing his tongue into her mouth ...Good Papa Midgett, finally some improvement.

> Possibly the only people he truly cares about
> aside from his schizophrenic master.

"You have to respect something..."


> Bellord, aka Rama Krishna das. The entity who
> handed his wife to butler. He must have zero self
> respect that poor guy.

Or a gift was not so precious...Not nice for the Master, bad offering...

> Tibby, aka Acarya das the entity who is too busy
> laundering money in the service of Krishna and
> hiding the hasish smuggling.
> Attacking Narayana Maharaja for stealing one of
> their good and faithful slave.
> The one who dared teaching a much greater
> Vaishnava born into bhakti yoga(close associate of
> ACBSP), spiritual etiquette.

A saint that in 1952 during the Gaura-Purnima, was by his beloved gurudeva granted initiation into the holy order of sannyasa. A Sanyasi from 1952!! What a respect from Tibby.

> While his own master was just a kundalini yogi,
> surfer dude, raised atheist, communist.

Haiki Meditation? 1,5 year? That would be 1,5 from necessary 64 years.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: October 16, 2021 10:47PM

This scene from the matrix is what happened to me when I first dared google butler in 2015.
They should replace the word matrix with the science of identity.
Entering this forum is the ultimate red pill. Not for the faint at heart.
Stay in the cult and be blissed out by the nectar of devotion and enjoy your slavery.
Leave the cult and find out that you were a slave and that your master is an absolute psychopath.
Can we blame them for choosing the blue pill (Krishna)?
Soon everybody will have no choice but to be red pilled.
The lala land fantasy is over.
Time to take the heads out of the maha sand.
Thanks Dawatcher. You have been a great brother.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: October 17, 2021 03:27PM

This !!

Quote: "SOI will implode
Posted by: Dudley ()
Date: June 27, 2021 08:12AM

A friend is telling me that most members of SOI believe Tulsi Gabbard is a pure devotee. Some believe Nitchy Hanson is also a pure devotee. Its only logical that butler must have said something, he has decided to give pure devoteeship to these people for services rendered. I believe that this is another foolish decision he has made.

What is Tapas, Acharya, Balakya and RKd going to do, to have any hope of being the next in line or having their own disciples. Butler is laying the foundations for the self destruction of SOI. No need for the police to smash through the front door of his sea front home and release the slaves in the kitchen and office. Butlers first pure devotees ( Katyani dasi and Brahmana Tirtha) look what happened there. They broke away and we never heard from them again. Sudarma Vipra off doing his own thing. Butler hasn't learnt from his mistakes.

These rival pure devotees ( Acharya & Rkd) are already skimming off butler followers for themselves. Australia & NZ is a perfect example. This is only right and just because this is what butler did to his spiritual master. He hijacked his disciples.

It shows us what you have to do to impress butler. Tadatmana & Curly Dave made bombs for butler. Paramhamsa was willing to sell drugs and kill for butler. Acharya & Japa das defrauded people and then some of those people committed suicide. Siddha bellord murdered, Nitchy took the wrap. Tusta sent the cows on his NZ farm to the slaughter house. Tulsi Gabbard became Pro abortion to get elected.

To be recognized by butler you have to be willing to kill for butler." End quote.


And so they did--- and so much more.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: October 17, 2021 03:30PM

Truth Wins-
Are you saying - you actually have a copy of that 300 page "Rules and Regulations" binder?

If you do, then Karma is a pretty bi%ch.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: DaWatcher ()
Date: October 17, 2021 05:32PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> Thanks Dawatcher. You have been a great brother.

Farewell. A man has somehow rebuild himself from this horrible duality.

VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote:
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> Truth Wins-
> Are you saying - you actually have a copy of that
> 300 page "Rules and Regulations" binder?
>
> If you do, then Karma is a pretty bi%ch.

"Kitchen robots can do that"

VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote:
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> A friend is telling me that most members of SOI
> believe Tulsi Gabbard is a pure devotee.

Accepting donations from mega abortion clinic? Expressing political acceptance for government donations for mega abortion clinic?

I would rather say "purée" devotee...

> Acharya & Japa das defrauded people and
> then some of those people committed suicide.

Repentless...

Farewell.

PS. And don't forget to get singing lessons from Lord Vader. He would show you remotely playing keybord without fingers, just dark side of the force...



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: October 19, 2021 04:47AM

Dawatcher just wanted to make it clear that I don’t want to trash Balakhilya’s family. They are decent people.
They just happen to have the priviledge of being related to a guy who is well connected.
They also do not know how ugly it is to take advantage of those privileges and be treated differently than us, just lowly non elite devotees.
May they never find out how ugly and unfair it all is.
I also want to make clear that I have love in my heart for all of them and it hurts me that they have surrendered their mind and soul to a man who is very obviously half demented.
I have respect for the good they are doing and for what they have given me.
But the god damn abuse, lies, secrecy and elitism must go.
They must come clean and appologize to all the devotees.
SOI has destroyed the potential of many good souls and kept them in spiritual diapers.
Also these so called masters saying who is pure and not is the greatest BS that has ever exsisted.
Let us see what happened with ACB and his predictions.
What does it even mean to be a pure devotee? To give your will, critical,thinking, body, time... to Krishna and have a spiritual master use an E collar on you?
Who are those advanced devotees in our group that everybody worships?
They have given their lives to krishna and butler. They are blissed out and showered by the love of their deities. Their lives are somcalled perfect.
Yet they are fine living with so many lies, using their position to give protection to their families, to be treated like royalty, to cheat, to accept lying on the strength of the Gita, Krishna...
Are they that pure?
A pure soul cannot get corrupted. Not even by the blissful love and sweetness of the blue boy. Because seriously if krishna was not attarctive, people would not fall,into this trap so easily.
Run Forest, no unfortunately I only have one page but I think the fining people for the one minute late tells it all.
People barely know 2 gita verses by heart and they have to recite those rules every week. Please I just cannot take that crap anymore! lol!
Shout out to all the people who are exposing this spiritual scam for what it is.
For exposing the abuse that passes for mercy.
For letting the world know that whoever “God” really is must be sick to have such representation on earth.
As I said it before, the forces of evil are for sure at play in that group.
And they are nasty as hell.
That level of fear, control, abuse... is pure evil. Nothing more.
Do not brainwash me into thinking it is for my own good.
That it will being me closer to God. Keep that for the poor hostages that have surrendered their precious minds.
Please keep your god is this is the method to reach him.
But the light is always stronger than the darkness.
Thank you all for fighting this noble battle. Even though I do not know who you are behind the “fake” names, I have great appreciation for all of you.
We are hopefully protecting some souls from this trap.
This forum helped me cut the cords for good. No regrets, no doubts.
I feel as though I have been rescued from spiritual child traffickers.
Bless you all!

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