> I have the full Butler kitchen rules if anyone
> ever wants it. It might have also been uploaded to
> the Kailua Cult FB page. It\’s not 300 pages.
> It\’s long, but not 300 pages. Lol. The Butler
> Kitchen Rules Samhita.
Send me a link in private message please.
> and realize that if your blue god is so petty that
Blue God. Visiting some centers I saw pictures with 6 forms of Krishna. Everyone was Krishna but not everyone was blue. Most of them were black, as far as I remember. Blue, black, the color of the storm cloud. Topic not discussed in SIF.
> The fact is that humans like this have existed
> since the dawn of time. There was no grand vedic
The topic is long and extensive. There is some knowledge about the Harappan culture, the civilization of Sumer, the Egyptian civilization, or the numerous migrations of peoples, for example the legend of the escape of Jews from Egypt, the hypotheses of expulsion from India or even Roma who also left India and are sometimes mistakenly associated with Romanians. Traces of common origin or intermingling are of course evident in religions, eg Zarathustrianism (the original religion of the Persians) bears the symptoms of being some kind of mutation of Vedism or a mixture. Science confirms the origin of many modern languages from the common language root of the Proto-Indo-European language. An interesting example is the Lithuanian language.
According to the calculations of linguists, about 3,000 of the Lithuanian nouns used today are very archaic words, direct continuations of the formation of the Indo-European proto-language. Nouns from the group of basic vocabulary are considered inherited from the proto-language, including names of parts of the human body (e.g. akis - eye, ausis - ear, nosis - nose, dantis - tooth, pilvas - abdomen, sirdis - heart), kinship names (moteris - female, motina - mother, vyras - male, brolis - brother), names of the surrounding environment (vanduo - water, ugnis - fire, laukas - field, medis - tree, naktis - night) and names of animals and plants (avis - sheep, kvietys - wheat, parsas - piglet ... etc.).
The most interesting in our discussion context is translation of "devotee"
Devotee -> bhaktas
From scientific point of view what is certain is wandering, transforming and mixing.
The other examples are more fun. For example, the sun has a similar wording in many languages: sun, sunce, slonce, solnce. But in Hindi it is "ravi". Egyptian deity "Ra". It becomes amazing when you realize that in Polish the sun rises in the morning ("rano") and sets in the evening ("wieczorem"). (Ra)no, (Wi)eczor. Rawi. Ravi.
> But again, I ask that you read the vedas for
> yourself. Let me know if it is indeed the insights
> of great thinkers or simply ancient people trying
> to make sense of the world they live in. Creating
> rituals and myths to sort out and explain life,
> the universe and natural phenomenon.
I have already explained my approach. I am reading, I will be reading, it is inspiring. But I will give an example: let's take the mysterious vimanas that moved thanks to a combination of metals - in one of the legends.
One group blindly believes these legends, rejecting modern science. The second group makes fun of this - dichotomous system - there were no wonderful "vimanas".
But when we look at the subject scientifically, looking at the potential effects, we learn, for example, that:
While most metals in compact form are gray or silver-white, gold is yellow. This is the result of the approximation of the energy band of the fully filled 3d orbital (3d10) and the Fermi level of the 6s orbital, only half filled (6s1). The relativistic effects make the 3d10 orbital expand and 6s1 contract, and as a result the energy gap, the size of which is responsible for the color of the element, is only 2.3 eV. This value has been experimentally determined and is in line with the calculations provided that they take into account relativistic effects.
Oxygen is readily absorbed by silver compared to other gases in the air. Attempts are currently being made to create a silver membrane that would separate oxygen from air
The issue of in-depth knowledge of phenomena, phenomena and having technology that allows, for example, the formation of appropriate materials in order to obtain the appropriate effects. Knowledge. The real Veda.
> A guru is not a military leader DeWatcher.
Yes, I know about it, but when you look at some of Chris Bulter's photos, the shirts worn are a bit "military in nature". One might even suspect the synthesis of an image. Also, part of the namittika dharma at certain times resembled military discipline in keeping with the hierarchy, etc.
> The guru is also never in a position to apologize
Heard sanyasis apologize.
> A final point on this string of comments I want to
> make is about the so-called \”pure devotee\”
> garbage that floats around these cults. Butler on
> one hand is vocal about the so-called guru being
> self-effulgent and not appointed. However, as far
> as parampara and lineage go, this is actually very
> dangerous. Appointment of acharyas and gurus by
> Gaudiya Math and many other Vaishnava cults is a
> common practice. This is because, as opposed to
> guru\’s of the past, a modern day guru has many
> assets: Cars, temples, equipment, property,
> disciples, businesses etc. Appointment ensures
> that these things are cared for and maintained.
> Bhaktivedanta started a GBC not because he thought
> every one he appointed to be acharya on his behalf
> was some sort of pure person. He did it for
> functional reasons. Devotees going around claiming
> that such and such devotee who is \”on-site\” or
> close to the guru is a \”pure devotee\” as a
> result of some sort of osmosis. Magic. Inevitably
> it spawns a culture of hierarchy that
> disenfranchises the organizations structure.
There is a lot of controversies.
> We were often told that if we are not making
> progress in this cult then it is due to some
> offense we are making knowingly or unknowingly.
> Think about that for a second. It\’s establishing
> a no-win situation At first we are reeled in being
> told that just by chanting some mantra and hearing
> some ideas from the scriptures our life will
> become perfect.
It is rather a SIF narrative. How is a perfect life to be when dealing with adi-daivik, adi-bautik, adi-atmik. In traditional line's teachings, it is more about meditation, and "split-vision" appears. It was also a surprising fact in the SIF when the "yellow book" or "Harinama Cintamani" appeared which explained in more depth "what the chanting of the Holy Name is all about".
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2021 04:36AM by DaWatcher.