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12 years ago
Sallie
EXFOLLOWER, Let's look at what I wrote.... I (Sallie) posted this ''Can I give the name of one of the teenage boys who was CO-ERCED to spend ''alone time'' with PJ by his parents...parents who had FULL KNOWLEDGE of the sperm passing ritual...??? And yes...the authorities already have the info... EXFOLLOWER, Note the QUES
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12 years ago
Sallie
The many THERAPISTS who contol this cult could have problems if they were ever reported for their ''techniques''. You know...the old ''love em up and let it go'' mantra.... QuoteSallieMANDATED REPORTERS are professionals who, in the ordinary course of their work and because they have regular contact with children, disabled persons, senior citi
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12 years ago
Sallie
Below is some info. about the statute of limitations etc. which I've previously posted Boys and young men need to be empowered as well as women Many men are shamelessly coming forward with stories about boy scout leaders/priests/camp counsellors. It's nothing to be ashamed of. That's my opinion. Victims of cult abuse and brain washing making easy targets because of their dist
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12 years ago
Sallie
QuotemainecooncatUnbeknownst to Sallie people reported GD to the police, which is why they were looking at him, found out what he was doing and is now a registered sex offender. That is a statement, a fact. No question needed. ========================================================================= One more tidbit. Stating something without emotion does not meke it a fact nor does it make t
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12 years ago
Sallie
QuotemainecooncatUnbeknownst to Sallie people reported GD to the police, which is why they were looking at him, found out what he was doing and is now a registered sex offender. That is a statement, a fact. No question needed. ========================================================================== ''People'' does not = cult members George Delalio was not arrested beca
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12 years ago
Sallie
That is something that the authorities would want to know. Are you asking me if I have voiced my concerns to the proper authorities?
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12 years ago
Sallie
Naming parents WOULD identify the boy(s) Suffice it to say I have a loathing for certain people. You've noticed? Does that make you wonder about anyone?
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12 years ago
Sallie
mainecoonecat, Here's another example of Q and A In this case I'm being questioned. Note how this works. Someone questions me. I answer. ========================================================================== QuoteSallieQuotedkj17This is mostly to Sallie, but I think it is relevant for all on the forum to think about. I am wondering, Sallie, what
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12 years ago
Sallie
mainecooncat, Here's another example of a ''question''. You posted .....QuotemainecooncatGD is definitely a a sex abuser. Prior to his arrest and conviction for soliciting sex with a minor over the internet he was not permitted to be around the youth of the cult. Obviously this indicates he had a prediliction for this type of behavior. ]... So...you knew Ger
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12 years ago
Sallie
mainecooncat, Note the question marks. Then explain what type of ''message'' you are searching for. I asked a question. You expect to find a message in that? Ten warning signs of a potentially UNSAFE GROUP/leader. 1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability. 2. NO TOLERANCE FOR questions or CRITICAL INQUIRY. 3. No meaningful financial di
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12 years ago
Sallie
QuoteLightdancer7 Sallie you do NOT know me or what I am or represent. I am blest that having left the area of the country I grew up in, (when I left the cult I came to the SE maybe that is why I don't know where ppl ending up living per se) =========================================================================== Lightdancer7, How did you search for Judy Forti? Did you wand
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12 years ago
Sallie
QuoteLightdancer7most pedophiles and deluded cult leaders are straight but sick and demented. How sick for GC an LC that they have spent so many years pretending to be something they are not and that the cult instructs them to do so. How sick that this cult rails against being Gay but doesn't do so about sexual abuse. ==================================================================
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12 years ago
Sallie
Anyone can talk about Dennis. Everyone can talk about Dennis. Everyone in fact SHOULD talk about Dennis. The facts surrounding his story are indisputable and recorded in the 1981 article. No one born prior to 1960 and who left this cult is going to find a thread about ''Jack Hickman'' on a forum entitled ''Cult Education'' on a board titled '�
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12 years ago
Sallie
OK so about Dennis. No one born prior to 1960 who was part of the close knit group of kids who hung out with PJ....could believe that Jack Hickman shunned Dennis because of homophobia. Anyone would understand that Jack first used his position to coerce a sexual encounter with Dennis. Next, he used his position to vent his anger and jealousy. Jack wasn't shunning Dennis for being gay in gene
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12 years ago
Sallie
LIGHTDANCER7. You wrote :I have tried for years to find some of the ppl I was once close with ....Gail Gibbons, Deb Schultz, Bob and Jane Hicks, Judy Utting (and her parents Joan and Bob), Nancy Gerdes, Jack Gerdes, Richie and Dennis Walsh to name a few, to no avail. '' SERIOUSLY?? Judy Utting is living in the same house that she was living in back in the 1970s...... Y
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12 years ago
Sallie
btw. As a courtesy I have kept quiet about very much of what I know/knew. Personal facts. My only request is that people respond with the same courtesy. If I'm refraining from posting truthful proveable facts then why would it be so hard to refrain from posting that ''Sallie is hatefilled/disruptive''....etc. I'm STILL trying to refrain from posting certain
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12 years ago
Sallie
In fact Charlie Me--off who was a member of the group had begun speaking about a relocation to the Colorodo area only a year or two after the 1981 fallout. He was very much into starting his own cult. He told me all about it. He wanted to use pot and Indian religious ceromonies. He would say that ''people need to be spiritually fed. '' and that '' people should g
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12 years ago
Sallie
The article about Jack Hickman shooting his sperm(which he called the seed of Jacobl) came out in 1981 As part of the fallout many other things were revealed. No doubt Jack Hickman became jealous when Dennis developed other interests.r Anyone born prior to 1960 was ''of age'' when the article came out. If they were so very close to Jack that they were a part of his
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12 years ago
Sallie
MyGoodName, Are you talking about the reputation of the woman who runs the institute or the reputation of the person who is posting?
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12 years ago
Sallie
Just to be clear I DO think that within their family these people ARE able to embarass and frighten and intimidate members. I DO NOT want to minimize the power and control and strangle hold that I truly believe they have on people. My assertion that I cannot be intimidated is based on the fact that my ties to them are COMPLETELY severed. I have the utmost respect and compassion for the man
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12 years ago
Sallie
QuotepequagirlWow. Not sure who will post anything here in the future! Too bad. I was rereading all of the posts back to the beginning and I found one from mennodoc on Aug. 4, 2008. Mennodoc previously shared that he left the community in 1983. In the Aug 4 post, he says that after leaving he began to read the novels of Solzhenitsyn which deal with THE LOSS OF MEANING AND ITS RECOVERY. This is wh
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12 years ago
Sallie
There is not nor has there ever been a human being that lived in Massapequa, Dix Hills, East Meadow...anywhere in Long Island really...who was born prior to 1960 and who is familiar in even the slightest way with Hickman.....who cannot contact others who left. . ANYONE who was born prior to 1960 and who left can locate others who left in order to talk...reminisce...whatever. THAT'S A FAC
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12 years ago
Sallie
disillusioned1, I bet you're right that it's legal. I don't think it's morally right. People with NO conscience preying upon those who actually do have a conscience. Wicked.
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12 years ago
Sallie
Quoteresu, Richie is a State Licensed social worker in Hallowell, Maine. (It makes me ill, and I can't count the number of times I have wished I had the money to take out a full page ad in the news paper asking people if they knew who they were actually getting counseling from.) Actually just call the Licensing Board and it doesn't cost a thing. The full page ad sounds like fun but
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12 years ago
Sallie
Resu, You were not diverting me. I simply was trying to explain why I was ''obsessing'' on the one phrase. I know absolutely nothing whatsoever...zero..about business. It's my own personal learning style... Anyway yeh...my God...I can't imagine having such strong financial ties. I posted that earlier. To be financially dependent on a Gary Coons? What a strang
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12 years ago
Sallie
QuoteexfollowerName: Kahal Kaddsh Shoresh Yishai Holy Congreation of the Root of Jesse Location: PO Box 1479 N Massapequa, NY 11758 ========================================================================== This is an actual company? What kind of company? Are they calling themselves a church or something? A healing group? A charity? How could they complain about being ''i
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12 years ago
Sallie
The definition of WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY is this ..... a wholly-owned subsidiary is a company whose stock is entirely owned by another company. The owner of a wholly-owned subsidiary is known as the parent company or holding company. Because the parent company owns all of the stock of the wholly-owned subsidiary, the parent company can control all of its activities. Moreover, under GAAP, all o
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12 years ago
Sallie
Ex follower you posted that Parsifal is a WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY of Shoresh Exfollower how could/would you know that if you're not a member? Exfollower how could you even know what a ''wholly owned subsidiary '' is unless you have business savvy? ====================================================================================================================
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12 years ago
Sallie
Well Pequa some years ago you began your autobiography on this board with these words ''I grew up in St Johns Lutheran Church with pastors Hove and Hickman. When I say "grew up" I mean that I spend much of my free time there as a child and teenager- until I went away to a Lutheran College. I was in Sunday school, bell choir, choir, catechism, Luther League etc. I listened to
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12 years ago
Sallie
I obsess...forgive me... Anyhow I looked up WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY A wholly-owned subsidiary is a company whose stock is entirely owned by another company. The owner of a wholly-owned subsidiary is known as the parent company or holding company. Because the parent company owns all of the stock of the wholly-owned subsidiary, the parent company can control all of its activities. Moreover,
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