In rural communities people slaughter their own animals. They hunt deer. They fish. It seems barbaric but it is a part of rural life. The attempt by Jack to slaughter an animal was NOT part of a ritual SACRIFICE. That sounds scary. NO. It was NOTHING SCARY . It was proof of Jack Hickman's PATHETIC, WEAK, AND LYING CHARACTER. You see...Jack was attempting to show that he knew
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Quotedisillusioned1 Fifth Tactic: It was ALL Jack. Sallie is right. Jack could not have operated alone. He had help. Where the hell did Gary come from? Why was he suddenly on the scene and Lou was not? What happened there? Anyway... Gary stayed with Jack, after the article, after knowing the men involved and he "left" with Jack and travelled with him. Gary wasn't born into this
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Lou Ramu was Jack's lover. So Lou was the partner. You know...the life partner of Jack. Because Jack was a homosexual. But Gary was apparently better looking than Lou and younger. So it's like when a wife gets tossed aside for a mistress. Lou was tossed aside for Gary. It seems that for a while Lou hung on...maybe in denial. Maybe to keep up appearances. Money, power, sex...all t
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Marvin how did you know that? I thought you left after SBS
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I recall more than one member talking about the Abraham/Isaac/Jacob blessing in the book of Genesis. Apparently the group believed that when Abraham was dying he passed on the ''blessing'' which was his sperm..by having Isaac put his hand under his thigh...etc. etc..you get the picture. Then each generation would continue on passing the blessing/seed/sperm in such a way.
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Gary Coons still teaches about the ''Holy Seed''? If so then he is teaching about sperm. In other words he is ''grooming'' members. No matter what age the men are...this is not good. They are CLEARLY being GROOMED for sexual exploitation. Any man no matter what his age could become a victim of Gary Coons and his friends. I would think the abuse wo
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You know someone just reminded me that those young folks who GARY COONS scouted out to be part of his ''close best buddies'' were not necessarily to blame for having characteristics and traits that Gary liked. Under better circumstances I'm sure those traits could evolve into something very good. ====================================================================
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Let me reiterate something and maybe help explain some of my own earlier and somewhat silly postings. For the young people who have been told a different story. Let me explain. This is THE TRUTH. Truth is not ''relative''...it is not ''what you want it to be'' it is not ''the expression of love and acceptance''.... Truth is what happ
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Ok let's all try this.. Never mind me. Parsifal has a site which says they've been in business since 1981? Their hand book states that they began as a two man operation. Gary Coons and Mark Olsen Right? Ok. Well how did they do that? With Gary hiding out in California and Mark Olsen raising a family here on Long Island? How did they start a business together? Besides the fa
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=========================================================================== Love it. I love this blog. OK. This time I got it right.
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QuotePninaruthSo there has been a lot of talk about retribution from the group flying around. Here, on my blog, and in conversations I've personally had with people. I just want to say that these people are gutless. They have words and that is it. If they do anything to anyone who speaks up the cops will be called, the FBI will get involved. Hell the FBI has a file on them already. Does anyo
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After reading so many historically ''innacurate'' postings by ''anonymous'' people...I am so grateful to PNINA for her blog entitled MODERNDAYCULT.BLOGSPOT.COM I Love it.
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After a cult is formed the GROUP leaders often use dialogue. Q. and A. is commonly used. The teacher and the Ace student present the ''model'' discourse. Everyone wants to mimick the straight A student. Right?. For example I think I am reading this correctly. I think this is a Q. and A. Am I right? Below...this is from the 32 Paths... Jack Hickman a
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In case anyone missed my retraction Let me restate my RETRACTION Apparently...I WAS MISTAKEN about the FIRST ABBA. It seems that the first ABBA was not john, the cousin of jesus/yeshua but...it was the brother and TRAVELING PARTNER of jesus/yeshua. First - yeshua/jesus and abba go a traveling. Next - yeshua/jesus comes home and takes a special bath with his cousin john. On L
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This was always a GROUP. Not a lone sociopath. Just like NAMBLA is a GROUP. Like..... For example the GROUP had beliefs about SPERM/SEED I remember being horrified all throughout the 1980s by the fact that the GROUP of inner circle women would shamelessly discuss the fact that their sons did or did not ''SPILL SEED'' while they slept. They were talking about wet dreams.
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CONCERNED, Yes that's right. V-NNIE COSTELLO. V-NNIE COSTELLO was entrenched in the ''re-building'' of this thing. By that I mean that V-NNIE COSTELLO was an adult ...well over 21...when the article came out. He was on Longl Island all throughout the 1980s (Just like Jack Hickman and Gary Coons who NEVER left NY.)....anyway he really assisted in keepi
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I just re-read some of the ''teachings'' Apparently...I WAS MISTAKEN about the FIRST ABBA. It seems that the first ABBA was not john, the cousin of jesus/yeshua but...it was the brother and TRAVELING PARTNER of jesus/yeshua. That adds up a little better. jesus and abba go a traveling. then jesus comes home and takes a special bath with his cousin. So who is the cousin
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I'm reading, hanging on each word, furiously scribbling down notes and....here's what I think I'm hearing... Below is Jack expounding upon beliefs. What he seems to be saying is that '' to become interactive with the government and to politically oppose them in a way which is legal...in NOT sanctifying faith''....''However, to live a seemingly ben
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I would have trusted Jack in 2001. I thought he sounded old. I didn't think he sounded demented. In fact I might have thought he was just intelligent. Youtube has some sites where politicians or economists talk about complicated subjects and they sound ''off'' at times. I always attribute that to intelligence. If I were raised in this group I might have trusted him.
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I found this definition of a BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUE used by CULTS It's called INDIRECT DIRECTIVES Indirect Directives Cult members often say to their families and friends, "No one orders me around. I choose to do what I do." Getting members to think that way is one of the manipulations mastered by cult leaders who have become skillful at getting acts carried out through indi
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From EXPERIENCE I have the ADVANTAGE of knowing that Jack is a crazy pedophile. However were it not for my experiences.... I would trust him. Jack also says '' I think you know by now that when you were born, there was within most of you the HOLY SEED, that tiny thing that is a pocket from which the SEED can break out. If you are born from above, that happens, and that makes this k
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So Jack claims that JOHN THE BABTIST is an ABBA? Well Jack Hickman is also an ABBA Is GARY COONS an ABBA? In the 1980s and into the early 90s I know that there were community '' '' MIKVES '' '' on Long Island for women who wanted to cleanse themselves after ''nida''? was that the word? It meant ''menstrual cycle'&#
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So one of the young man who was coerced by his parents to spend ''alone time'' with Jack ended up in a mental hospital...in the early 1990s....in New York.. There is a website about Jack Hickman which claims that Jack and Gary Coons were in California from 1983 - 1996. I wonder how that is possible? This boy spent time with Jack Hickman in the early 1990s. In New York. A
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Exfollower, This is a thread entitled Jack Hickman The board is called Abusive and Controlling realationships The forum is called Cult Education By posting Jack's teaching about the jesus/john bath experience...you feel I am harming????? Who??? Who am I harming?????
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So in his last years of his life Hickaman likened himself to John the Baptist? Did I read that correctly? So there is a new ''jesus'' ? Is that it? Well that's new. But the masculine / feminine union and ''not judging'' is old stuff. The rantings about how ''true wisdom'' is not ''knowlede'' because no one c
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Well I heard the same old Jack. 1)He talked down Christians. He used the same old anti-Charismatic jargon that he began in the 70s. In fact he was quoted in the 1975 article ''Charismatics Alive and Well''., as saying similar stuff. 2)He gave an unnecessarily long description of jesus and john in the water. Go figure. 3)He went on to explain why people who question
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He doesn't sound frightening. He doesn't sound scary. If a ''grown-up'' told me he was ''safe'' to be around then, as a child...I imagine I would have believed them. Which parents told their children that it was safe to be around the harless old man? Who knows the answer to that? Children who never read the 1981 article. Whose parents said h
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Pninaruth, You are a ray of sunshine.
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Justagirl, What you experienced IS a type of sexual violation. Do yo know that if someone shows a child pornography then they are guilty of corrupting a minor? That's illegal. Think of this....if a man in a park flashed his junk at you....he would go to jail. If the image you were shown was on the internet....those who showed it to you would be liable. There could be charges
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Once more. 1)A victim who is trying to report or tell a story of abuse CAN BE HARMED if they are doubted. In order to get the practical help which they need it is imperitive that their story is believed. 2)A person who is attempting to help a victim of abuse WILL NOT BE HARMED emotionally if they are mistrusted. Those who help abuse victims FULLY EXPECT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF MISTRUST TO BE
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