Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I have no idea. > > It would be fascinating if everyone who has > > written in this forum could glance at what > would > > have taken place in their lives if they had not > > been giv
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One thing I've noticed is that once I get someone to submit to me, the whole oneness thing becomes much easier. Otherwise, it is pretty much impossible.
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heshealing Wrote: > The claim is that John died becuz of disobedience. > Did Marilyn die because of her disobedience? And > what will happen with GH if He gets tired of > seeing him continue in his disobedience? I suspect God can't be too happy with Gary's self-appointed mission of teaching oneness, given his long track record of severely punishing anyone that dare
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lily rose Wrote: > Yes, a mean streak ran though it. As Larry has > posted, JRS not only referred to his wife but also > his daughter's as Nephilim (unreal for any caring > parent) I wasn't aware he identified his own daughters as Nephilim. BTW, John also had a falling out with his own father...sometime in the late 70's I believe.
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kBOY Wrote: > "So, let’s believe that this oneness that God > has brought us into will continue to spread." > (The CDC should be notified > immediately.) > > "This oneness is huge in what God is doing in the > earth today in bringing forth His Kingdom." > (It is so huge it is all over the > news.) For the sake of the innocent, anythi
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Hot dog" > > Changedagain, that's beautiful ! > > Walk trivia for sure. thanks puddington...it just came to me, almost like a vision :)
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larry bobo Wrote: > I think it was the root of John's thinking that God wanted to destroy > others with His judgement Yes, and I think it was even more so entrenched in the ministry of G & M (Mom and Dad). This underlying certainty that God is appalled by human nature, and can't wait to destroy it with his Presence. Definitely a strain of sadism that is channeled th
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Just another reason I would make a pathetic cult leader...the inability to come up with a convincing, other worldly story to explain an mysterious disappearance. arriving at home, 11 p.m. Wife: Where the hell were you? Me: uh...Home Depot and Costco Wife: Really... Me: Yeah, they've extended their hours, and I just got into trance. I lost all track of time. I think God may have met
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Saw enough Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gary has persisted in promoting the vision JRS > allegedly had in 1972 seeing 7 years into the > Kingdom, even though one of the Blix girls at that > time told Gary and Marilyn that she had been with > John Stevens that entire day. This was common > knowledge among the Living Word Building gossips
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lily rose Wrote: > Ditto. The thing with my mom was in her last years > her memory faded (though she always knew who I > was) and she stopped being mad at me and our > relationship was restored. I am thankful for that. > This is really a biggie and I don't care what Gary > or the other leaders say, folks in TLWF should > think about this.... how they will feel w
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My do-over would be my family. My parents, my > siblings and my old close friends. Those > relationships were trashed by the LW cult culture. > A lot of those loved ones are gone now. For > others, it was just too much shunning for them to > take from me. Those relationships are permanently
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GIVE YOURSELF TO THE LEADERSHIP!!!!!!!!!!! (oops...sorry for the flashback)
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My “do over” would be to honor my own opinion, > capabilities and revelation. Instead of kowtowing > to self-proclaimed spiritual authorities and > feeling obligated to respect and regard > “their” thinking as superior, I would give my > own Spirit to spirit revelation the priority. > That would
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I have no idea. It would be fascinating if everyone who has written in this forum could glance at what would have taken place in their lives if they had not been given to "the kingdom." Perhaps I could have completely devoted myself to managing a Foster's Freeze ;)
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Welcome hesheling! > One of those things for me: In a message "The > Truth About John" Gary says plainly that leaders > are accountable only to those over them, not those > under them. On a scale of 1-10, Gary's obsession with authority/respect is an 11. > Another of those things: In the early 1990's I was > one of two people in charge of che
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Now, The Vision Belongs To Us" > November 13, 2016 > > - > the-vision-belongs-to-you/ > > "When John Stevens received a vision > (hallucination) of the Kingdom in > 1972, he noticed two things. One, the people who > survived, (those still held captive under > TLW
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > > Who still remains from the apostolic company > > formed after John's death? Rick and Gary? Are > > there others? Curly, Moe, Larry (not Bobo), and the Donald? Totally forgot about Curly. Thanks for refreshing my memory of his powerful ministry!
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> "That’s how we’ll see breakthroughs come, first for > our apostolic company and then for every member of the > Body of Christ Who still remains from the apostolic company formed after John's death? Rick and Gary? Are there others?
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Even if our "fathers and mothers" have been serving their own interests, enriching themselves by your sacrifice, and seem to always be berating you from the pulpit for not being given enough--your job is to unquestionably support them. Simple as that. If you keep putting their interests above your own eventually God might do something for you. Probably not in this lifetime, but some da
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I recollect in one of the free Gary podcasts that > I viewed a few months ago, G said something about > being disappointed in the election outcome (not > sure which one) I think it was 2012--Romney vs. Obama. If anyone knows for certain, weigh in.
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changedagain Wrote: > From what I recall, TLWF eventually accepted and > supported Obama--dropping their resentment, and > trusting that God would move through him. Really changedagain? Are you sure about this recollection??
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At least he tells it like it is:
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Lily: >Having thought through all these things tonight, if I wake up tomorrow to Trump as >President, I still will be in shock. From what I recall, TLWF eventually accepted and supported Obama--dropping their resentment, and trusting that God would move through him. The end result is that he did a pretty good job. So it's only fitting that I change my attitude and believe God is bi
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lily rose Wrote: > I heard one TV pundit tonight call Trump an exotic character and > I thought John Robert Stevens was an exotic > character. The use of conspiracy theories served both of them well. Think of how much time we wasted in the walk buying into this concept of Nephilim channels (in our midst)-- whose purpose was to thwart the will of God. Often, John used his "visi
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The account of John's vision of the Kingdom (which arrived in December of '79) can be found in the book 'The Shape of Things to Come'. I've had a copy buried for years somewhere in my garage...which I might search for should I ever have a renewed interest in the details of this vision. I do vaguely recall John stating that in the Kingdom there were no stoplights. Does a
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This development is quite interesting. Gary may have to take a secondary role in order to get this unity thing happening. Pastor Omar Pinto and Assistant Pastor Gary Hargrave?
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Her legacy is a history of destroyed lives. > > Let's be crystal clear, there's NOTHING here to > > honor or imitate. Its a total abomination to > > suggest this woman was some sort of saint... It will be interesting to see how the story develops. I suspect Gary will not be
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