For former TLWF laborers taking a rest today, here's an article from the Aplogetics Index - Religious Cults, Sects and Doctrines Quote MANIFEST SONS OF GOD Part of Neo-Pentecostalism. The teaching that in the last days, a "new breed" of Christians will arise - the "Manifest Sons of God" - who will have super-natural spiritual power and be instrumental in subd
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Posted by: Road to Damascus Date: August 31, 2019 10:26AM I have been approached by some that claim that only the ones that are left are truly hurting because they are still on the front lines, and that any who have left are deceived. This is sad to hear, but not totally surprising. The front lines, God's chosen remnant...it never ends. I hope one day to be able to put my feet down
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Quote Posted by: I_woke_up Date: August 31, 2019 06:33AM Go ahead and share. I agree with your last paragraph. Not sure why C&P are still around and have their hand on everything if they “stepped down” unless they are still getting paid and/or want more money?! Does Haworth Family Ministries own any part of Shiloh or Marilyn Farms? I hope that "Haworth Family Ministries" is a
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Re: the "In Christ's Blood" sign-off used in GH's apology letter... Even when TLWF leaders attempt to mimick mainstream Christian leaders, they sound awkward and out of their element at best. It reminds me of a certain president quoting "Two Corinthians". GH should stick with what is familiar to him, like lording it over what is left of his disappearing flock.
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Quote Reepicheep, The email was not signed so I’m left feeling like who wants to reconcile?! I’m not even sure who all still participates in this organization. It also was sent in clusters to 15 people at a time, instead of bcc’s. I personally don’t respect any organization that quotes scripture AT people and doesn’t follow it themselves (leadership). To quote Brene Brown, “Leaders must
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Not wanting to say too much and waiting for Onion's response...I just have one question. Who is the "we" they kept referring to? Was the letter signed by any individual? I would suggest to anyone receiving a similar letter that they think hard before becoming involved in some kind of amorphous reconciliation effort. You can do that with individual friends at your own pace. Rest ass
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I guess I was unaware that wine or other alcoholic beverages were part of either the McDougall diet or the raw food diet. Probably another case of different rules for different groups of people. You can't make this stuff up.
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Did anyone ever throw a wild gourd on the crock pot? Or was that Wild Turkey?
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And cross-current.
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I believe that the order is potato, doghouse, nephilim. Not positive, though since they liked to keep people off-balalnce. They probably switched it around a lot. ; )
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Changedagain, I remember having a conversation about something along these lines in the late nineties. (I'll let you figure out the leader's identity.) His question to a few people at a small meeting was, "Who is a ministry in this local church?" My thinking was that anyone who had been around for several years and was involved was a ministry. Isn't that in the Bible?
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HELL - High Executive Level Leadership. LOL ; )
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More on JRS' "vision into the future" by larry bobo. Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: larry bobo () Date: November 26, 2016 08:26PM It seems John’s vision into the future was conveyed differently in various local churches of TLWF. It was much like Christmas – in some locations you were going to burn in hell if you had a Christma
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Quote Powerful Article on Forms of Bondage in Deceitful Groups Posted by: corboy () Date: August 24, 2019 08:37AM What’s Behind the Blowback You’ll Get When You Engage Cult Members Corboy, Great to see you! I skimmed the article and will read carefully later. Awesome!
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Here's my favorite type of post from kBoy...his great analyses of current "words" AKA sermons. Coincidentally, it's a sermon by GH talking about JRS' "trip to the future". Enjoy... Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: kBOY () Date: November 13, 2016 07:33PM HEADBANGER NEWS: Stealing Candy From a Baby "Rek
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Unfulfilled prophecies, arranged marriages, arranged divorces, abortions ordered, people called prophets, people called nephilim...where did it end? This was all at JRS' command. And so much more. So very many were hurt, and the only ultimate beneficiaries were G&M and Rick.
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I think that this bears repeating. From Saw Enough, about a month before Shalom's post. Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Saw enough () Date: September 27, 2018 11:21PM In December 1972 Brother Stevens disappeared for an entire day and a few days later he went to the Valley Church and claimed that he'd been caught up in the spirit and
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After looking through hundreds of posting histories, I believe that it is possible that there is some type of a glitch in the system, which in rare cases could cause odd posts by other users to appear in someone's history. Out of hundreds, I saw three instances where this may have occurred. With that bit of doubt, I sincerely apologize to Aardvark for assuming that he posted six years ago as
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Ohman? () Date: August 21, 2019 06:23PM Sorry to change the subject, but since we're all here, does anyone know what it cost to send a kid to Centers of Learning ,Sepulveda in the 80's/90's? Ohman, I don't remember. But I looked up the current costs, and to send a child to Jr. High or High S
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An interesting post from slandjt back in 2015 which probably will strike a chord with many. Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: slandjt () Date: September 17, 2015 10:45PM I've been reading these posts for a couple of years and thought I would weigh in now. I came into the Walk as an impressionable young teenager in the late 60s. My parents
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Aardvark, I suggest that you try to clear up this problem with the moderator. It seems odd that none of my friends have weird former user names showing up in their old posts. Just bad luck?
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Aardvark, go to one of your posts and click on your user name. Then click on "show all posts". I did not make this up.
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A search of our "old" friend Aardvark's history on this forum to follow. Please note that a mere six years ago he/she posted on a Buddhist thread and claimed to be a child. He/she was banned from the RR Forum for being an underage poster. So much for 47 years in TLWF.
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QuoteCult Education Institute Destructive Cult Dynamics What types of people become leaders of unsafe and/or destructive groups? Many cult leaders seem to be narcissistic personalities often fantasizing about messianic visions that will change the course of human history, while appearing to have little if any conscience. Some make claims that they are the exclusive voice of God, "psych
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Quote Posted by: Aardvark () Date: August 16, 2019 06:11PM Puddington, Well said, but I stand by my previous statements. This issue is complex because it is largely theological and would require a long winded biblical debate. The first question here is whether one believes as the charismatics do, for example, that God can and still does many of the same things that He did in the Bible. If yo
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Maybe that's why JRS brought The Threat Within sermon. The answer was always within us. We were taught not to listen. : (
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Aardvark, your point about JRS not promoting quasi-occult practices leaves me somewhat dumbfounded. In the late sixties and early seventies, the Bless Ins became a Saturday night staple. Right hand under, left hand over...because that's the direction the blessing flows. Belief in demons, casting out of demons and demon possession were all big. Physical signs in the body to give insight into
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Quote Posted by: Aardvark Date: August 15, 2019 11:17PM Yes, CLW in North Hills. I don’t think my experience was unusual. All those I hung with were also having very positive experiences. And as you probably know CLW continues with about half the number that were there before the implosion (I haven’t been there in almost a year). And obviously those who continue don’t feel they were abused.
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QuotePosted by: changedagain () Date: August 15, 2019 02:17PM Can anyone confirm this? A post by 'Invisible' from January of 2014: I found a marriage record for JRS and Marilyn on 9/8/80, which is almost a month prior to the show wedding in Anaheim. IMO, it's entirely possible that Invisible was invited to a "for show" reception months before that. We have heard
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Changedagain and SunnyFord and all other receivers of those infamous birthday cards...I suppose that G&M really put a lot of effort into that gesture of "love and caring". Oh, wait, it was actually the same signatures copied year after year. What a crock. Though I suppose it was the least they could do for people giving up their lives, families, bank accounts and sanity for them. :
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