Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: changedagain () Date: August 11, 2019 01:22PM puddington Wrote: If they end up moving all the bodies in the Shiloh cemetery to the cemetery on Nutmeg, isn’t this going to be difficult for moving JRS? Isn’t his body encased in a slab of concrete? I think this would be a good job for a couple Yaspers.
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QuotePosted by: changedagain Date: August 10, 2019 06:04PM 1,150,094 page views to date... I admit, early in the year I expected this group to completely disintegrate. Not so--at least not yet :) The reports of the demise of this forum are greatly exaggerated.:)
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Quote Posted by: changedagain () Date: August 08, 2019 09:14AM The remains of loved ones are an obstacle to development. Off site--out of sight. Yes. "Your loved ones are impeding development" would be a poor choice of words (IMO). Yes, for once, the families' wishes should be honored. I remember at a Shiloh summer camp during the early nineties while presenting t
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Thanks for posting this, puddington. Body of article below. Quote A Monday work session with the Kalona City Council and Shiloh directors brought up a potentially touchy situation. Shiloh has a small cemetery and columbarium in the middle of its 200-acre property, which the city would like to see moved in order to proceed with the proposed voluntary annexation of the church propert
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Onion () Date: August 04, 2019 02:34PM There was a power of attorney and a will prepared in March or April of 1983. JRS was completely incapacitated and rarely awake from March 10, 1983 until he died in June. Bill Maybee spent hours sitting in JRS' yard practicing to forge JRS' signature. He forged JRS&#
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QuoteRe: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Onion () Date: August 04, 2019 02:34PM JRS could have amazing and impressive events and performances any time – he had the slave labor and the financial resources of the people that he used as he pleased. So that's where RH learned this way of life. Of course. They were all users and abusers.
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Changed, thanks for re-posting the above by Lilith. It shows a lot of insight. Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Lilith Date: November 10, 2018 06:33AM "Some of us were raised to question everything in a time when children were seen and not heard and to do as they were told, that was rare at that time. If you are here telling everyone that
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: dbc () Date: July 28, 2019 11:14PM Hi! Anyone know what's going on in San Diego? I've heard some rumors about JM and a connection with Alaska ... dbc, you can listen for yourself here:
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: dirtybrushes () Date: July 27, 2019 12:37PM That recorded message just about caused an "upward flow" of my lunch in my esophagus! All the lingo could have been pasted up from random splicings of tapes from the '70s. The whole discourse on "taking the beach head" was classic "you k
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Have you ever heard of Nouthetic Counseling? It is counseling based only on the Bible. While that is not exactly the same as the counseling "offered" by TLWF pastors and others, I have come to believe that both are unhelpful and counterproductive. In my opinion, people seeking answers to problems should see a professional, licensed therapist. Church counselors have to speak the party li
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I saw this quote and it spoke to me because in many ways we have been institutionalized people. :( "When untangling from abusive churches there are lots of questions to work through and to investigate. It can be a lonely journey due to the defensiveness of institutionalized people."
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Thank you, Ohman? Glad to know you are still here. :)
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Trigger warning. Listen to a former high level ministry from TLWF bring a message to the Whitestone Farm compound in Alaska last January.
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Lol, Ohman? Big doings on other forums. Crickets here for several days. Thanks for making me laugh. :)
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: July 19, 2019 02:40PM NancyB Wrote: > I wonder if anyone ever asked JRS, "What did You > u do?" My guess- not being there was that he was > drunk and she got home late from the Ball room. > Snark! Yeah, that's more likely than the official narrative :) Y
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NancyB, I hope that you will change your mind. Your input here is valuable.
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OK, my theory only: JRS passed out waiting on the Lord (in a drunken stupor), woke up to pee, and happened to notice that Martha still had not been obedient to die. They had words. (JRS: Why aren't you dead yet? Martha: Why aren't you like Christ yet?) Alarms were sounded, special people were awakened to practice what amounted to black magic voodoo spells against the pastor's wi
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Welcome, JimK3. In the early days of The Walk, JRS and his family lived in Lynwood, CA, near Grace Chapel South Gate. They moved to North Hollywood by the time period you spoke of. The Church of the Living Word in Sepulveda (now North Hills) was built in the early sixties, and JRS would preach in both LA area churches several times a week. Later there was also a church in Anaheim, CA. At Sh
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QuoteNancyB Back in those days ministers used "doctor of divinity" to show how respected as a holy person - like a Catholic Priest. JRS as "Holy Person". I guess that was quite an exaggeration. Or quite a scam. So sad.
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Oh, boy! Fred and Ethel memories. And after they were all put together, some poor sucker had to go watch a bazillion extra copies of the old ones get shredded. They weren't allowed to leave the shredding techs unattended or leave until the job was completed because spies were no doubt waiting around every corner to steal a page for nefarious purposes. Just curious, did you ever get to re
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Important to Remember...
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: NancyB () Date: July 15, 2019 01:22PMCan you think of any more statements you heard in the walk that were or were not emotionally black mailing? Where to begin... [*] You're just bitter [*] Don't use your carnal mind [*] The really dedicated people will be at the work day [*] It's your choice,
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"Set the record straight." Does that mean "Let me tell you how to think?" I hope that most people who have left TLWF will no longer let anyone tell them how to think again. But if former members have not examined the tactics used by cult leaders, it could happen again. Doing a little homework will be of great benefit to your future peace of mind.
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: changedagain () Date: July 12, 2019 10:44AM A post by that little red flag from November 2018 Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: that little red flag Date: November 29, 2018 I haven't been around at the local SD church for almost 5 years, but they had the apar
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Quote Posted by: maggieb Date: July 06, 2019 03:05PM Daughter of an ex-member here. Does anyone know about adoptions taking place within the church during JRS's time? I've read posts about marriages and possibly abortions being strongly influenced by TLWF leadership, but wondering if they also facilitated adoptions within the church. Feel free to DM me if you have any information on t
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: July 10, 2019 08:50AM Reep from December of 2017: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Reepicheep Date: December 16, 2017 07:49PM JRS was considered to be THE Apostle to the Kingdom age. He had definite ways of letting you know what you were suppose
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Quote Posted by: changedagain () Date: July 10, 2019 08:44AM Old habits are hard to break, Reep. Wasn't that a Kingdom proverb? Yes. Or maybe it was "You can't teach an old cult leader new tricks"? ;)
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: July 08, 2019 06:27PM A post by Lone Wolf (November 2018): Posted by: lone.wolf () Date: November 28, 2018 09:23PM "....it might coincide with Silvana Hargrave's Facebook post which asked people to give monetary gifts so she and Gary can start their new life together in a new
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Wow! Apostle Dog had a way of telling the truth, didn't he? Good job, AD.
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: changedagain () Date: July 07, 2019 11:51AM Reasonable question, and unreasonable answer...unless you happened to have been immersed in the cult, and then it is readily understandable. The coercive persuasion applied daily reached to the core of our being, bypassing the rational mind, and did its work. The pow
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