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13 years ago
MartinH
in my country no politician has ever done Landmark. There were always rumors that in the ILP somebody is talking to some really big guy ... recently the rumor that Landmark (LEBD) is in touch with the FIFA ... BIG IMPORTANT Landmark, transforming this planet, isn't it? well, a big guy doing the Landmark forum with tap water during the breaks ? :twisted: As far as I know, there
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
152. Landmark
your friend should be very careful and tell Landmarkians nothing about her abuse. Some people experience mental breakdowns because Landmark is teaching them that they are responsible for any "story they made up about their lifes". This is, in my opinion, a really dangerous side of Landmark, that people without any training behave like arrogant pricks who have the same explanation f
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13 years ago
MartinH
effects of the Landmark forum, if any: one phone call (happy bla bla), confusion on the receiving end of the call ... euphoria lasts about three weeks in the average participant, then everything back to normal or taking further courses at Landmark ...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
I forgot, the Pope is running a racket on women, so we have him sorted out ...
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13 years ago
MartinH
Landmark's solution for the US: George W Bush should take the Forum and tell Osama Bin Laden, that he has been running a racket ... :shock: Landmarkians have an easy solution for all the world's problems, except for their own marriages or relationships ...
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13 years ago
MartinH
the Dalai Lama is running a racket on Chinese soldiers ... simple, but that's the solution to all problems ... Landmark is the solution. sorry I can't resist being so cynical :twisted:
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
typical Landmark arrogance ... all the Dalai Lama needs, is Landmark , really :-) :twisted: ... Landmark has saved the world's hunger (Hunger project).
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
interesting :wink: , could you explain a bit what the chart says, e,g that someone withdrew 3 M cash?
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13 years ago
MartinH
normally if you benefit from something, like a good restaurant whatsoever you will tell your friends But Landmark uses 1/3 of the time telling you how impotant it is to tell your friends, and they are SO serious and not accepting any other opinioins at that point WHAT A BRAINWASHING NONSENSE ... CHILDISH ACTUALLY :evil: to think that noone will see the intention behind But I saw so man
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13 years ago
MartinH
Hi Nettie my opinion is: there are certainly benefits from the training, maybe just by talking to many people and realizing that we ae all human beings sharing many common problems. But Landmark is a business cult indoctrinating people with -Never be citical about Landmark (it's the one and only) and recruit recruit (all your well-being and transformation depends on recruitingyou k
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13 years ago
MartinH
sorry, Rwinters, of course it was Obi-wans quote ... I referred only to the information, I am sure readers recognize that you are against LGTAs.
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13 years ago
MartinH
yes, and www.landmarkeducationasia www.landmarkcurriculumforliving www.landmarktheforum landmark.co.uk landmarkcommunicationcourses landmarkteamleadership landmarkthebenefits bla bla many will probably follow landmarkrecruitingpressure landmarkcult landmarklawsuits landmarknonsense landmarksafestheworld :twisted:
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteRswinters There have been independed studies of it done by Harvard and UC Berkeley which confirm its effectiveness. Landmark mentions these studies all the time. But apparently Harvard and UC Berkeley studies have not addressed the core problem with the recruitment pressure at Landmark. Many participants of Landmark course end up arrogant and recruiting others. Some people don't eve
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteObi-Wan This forum is a cult. I'm a scientist and have been for decades. I've also been to a number of Tony Robbins events, a T. Harv Eker Millionaire Mind seminar and a few others and I can tell you that most of you are so worked up about nothing it's funny. adults are allowed to do that! I'm a scientist, too and have been for decades. And I think Lankmark is ve
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13 years ago
MartinH
look on this site Landmark claims private people have to remove information about them being a cult. This is where the money goes, poor Landmark is criticized
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quotequestion ladySo if I understand you correctly, if I google landmark education I will get information about how it is cult like. But if I google Landmark self expression I wont' get cult links. And if I google Landmark cirriculum for living I won't get cult links. :?: :idea: Don't no about the US, but previously in, my country you have got landmarked..com and most other site
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quoteelena You're probably referring to this one: Evaluating a Large Group Awareness Training: A Longitudinal Study of Psychosocial Effects, J.D. Fisher, R. C. Silver, J. M. Chinsky, B. Goff and Y. Klar, , Published by Springer-Verlag, October 1990, ISBN 0-387-97320-6. this is a great article! No positive, no negative effects. Only further recruits for Landmark ( I don't k
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13 years ago
MartinH
.... cool. Also I noticed, Landmark has a brand new strategy, they are buying many domain names, like www.landmarkselfexpession.com, landmarkasia.com, www.landmarkcurriculumforlivig.com that the information about the cult are removed from the front page in google.
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuoteSomnambulance So now my mother, sister, step father and brother in law have all attended Landmark and the further seminars, and myself and my girlfriend are the only members of my (small) family who have refused to go, and as such we have noticed ourselves being ostricised and treated as outsiders. Quite ironic seeing as Landmark purports to increase family relationships. The changes I have
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuotepragmatistRick - I have no particular purpose here other than to see what you have to say about anything and everything. I like talking about things... In the entire post where you outline the 'relevant issues' on LE, you listed three things that you were authentic about, with regards to yourself. And I didn't need a peer review study to detect what you are yearning for, an
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13 years ago
MartinH
QuotepragmatistQuoteRswinters That you ignore the people who have gone to these LGAT's and have had these philosphies destroy their lives as they tried to apply it in life. How did the Landmark Forum 'LGAT' destroy your life then? Mind telling us? If you're just going to throw everything and the kitchen sink, then obviously, this forum is useful for nothing but ranting.
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quotepragmatist I cleaned up with my boss some of the crap I said to him a while back, and the man is now more responsive to me than EVER before. I've been working in this company for 2 years, and am now on my way to project management.... the forum + the advanced course gave me some insights about myself that I am now putting to use daily, everywhere in life.... Hi , we know these cour
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13 years ago
MartinH
I can only speak as a volunteer in the TMLP (team managment and leadership prgram), after a while I was at a point were I could not manage work and TMLP, and was concerned about my costs for the travel etc. ... (for half a year in total 3000 $) I thought for myself that I will do whatever program at Landmark if it produces results in my life and in my job ... at some point, where I realiz
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13 years ago
MartinH
during my own recovery, I sometimes ask myself, if there is really something I learned during the Landmark courses which I could not have learned otherwise ... which is, of course, a reminder of their indoctrination I want to experience learning similar things in a more effective way. This Sunday I listened to a psychologist talking to people on the radio that were calling. I was delighted
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13 years ago
MartinH
Lanmark is not about money , it's about transformation :twisted:
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13 years ago
MartinH
why does it still grow? if you google in my country for Landmark, there are now several different websites officially run by LEC and cult-related websites. Nothing else, official websites and warnings of Landmark being a cult.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
Maybe initially, there is a positive effect. In this forum we are talking about LGATs, about experiences with leaders, and their "in"-humanity: feeling power over people, making money and emotional abuse.
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13 years ago
MartinH
I just hate this organization, its arrogance and the way they treat people ... yes, I have done many courses and I was positive about it, but I finally made experiences with a staff member I couldn't believe people could do with a smile on their face ... and I still have to deal with it.
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13 years ago
MartinH
Quotejokesonme Back when my friend first joined, I told my then boss that I was worried about my friend joining a cult, and when I told him what is was, he just said. Landmark is not a cult!! That is sooo interesting ... only Landmarkers have a problem saying Landmark is a cult. Such an arrogance! In my opinion Landmark is a cult. People fall for it, spend an aweful lot of money and of thei
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
MartinH
and a few movies ... landmark courses are boring anyway, no music, no hugging ... just sitting around in ugly rooms and at least tap water for free ...
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