More fascinating info about Stuart Wilde and Scientology, from DR. That is very unique information, that people need to look into. It makes one wonder, is Stuart Wilde like LRH, crazy, or crazy like a fox? The evidence for Stuart Wilde point to crazy like a fox. Wilde was always quite clever, and was able to sell a lot of books years ago with his quips. But over time it got stranger and we
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CosmicConnie has a post on her views on regulation. Ya know what the real pros like Byron Katie and others who do LGAT seminars to make millions have to say? When confronted by authorities, they just say they are "having a conversation" and the seminars are "entertainment". Add a big fat helping of "religious freedom" to the mix, and they say they are engaging
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Of course, in a non-cultic environment, difference of opinion is healthy! But there have been many terrible mistakes made about James Ray. The worst are in the media, and in those who wanted to ban sweat lodges, and the like. James Ray has nothing to do with sweat lodges, it was just an instrument for him. He could have used an igloo, or desert island, or hotel ballroom. What was James
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Gotta totally disagree with that! Things have progressed by light-years since Houdini was dealing with cold-reader spiritualists. The LGAT seminar and NLP persuasion experts are now able to engineer how people make decisions in that seminar environment. They do that extremely carefully, just read their disclaimers where they talk about how everything done in the seminar is "voluntary"
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Its an important link. Matthew B. James "says" he was doing spiritual training at age 5, and was exposed to Muktananda Siddha Yoga in childhood. Of course that would come from his parents and father Tad James who was one of the main people in NLP hypnosis in the early years. Many NLPers took the NLP modeling/copying tech, and applied it to "spiritual" pursuits. They would
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Matthew B. James (and his people who taught James Ray NLP, as shown below) were also into the abusive Siddha-Yoga cult and Muktananda. Muktananda also had his fingers into the NLP group persuasion tech, fusing the modern persuasion techniques and "spiritual" practices. This was explored in the Byron Katie thread, and this would be where the SYDA "install the guru in your body medi
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It so ridiculous how all these LGAT's use the same sales techniques...like the bogus "scholarship" racket, which is just a way to make people feel a little better about getting ripped-off. Byron Katie, and many others also use the "scholarship" method. Of course, they know they will get MORE than that money back from direct product sales during the seminar, they make hun
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That is totally correct, and it also applies to post-NLP, that is, people who do variants of NLP but call it another names, there are dozens of them. The NLPers in seminars get people hyped up to think they can do basically anything with their tech, and then sign them up to more expensive trainings. They take fairly naive and credulous people in the audience, and sell them on the idea that &quo
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On the Droid website there appears to be yet another NLP war brewing...the kind that makes your eyes glaze over and your head start nodding yes as you read the words and sign the contract for advanced seminar training now, as time is running out and there is only one space left... Generic "NLP" went out of vogue many years ago, and has a terrible reputation both technically and in te
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An interesting point about strategic Storytelling used in persuasion to modify core beliefs without the subjects awareness. They can be classic stories, that sound like fables. But they are even more effective when they don't sound like stories anymore, and just like conversation. Miilton Erickson used that method in his Teaching Tales. Then the NLPers came along and modified that. T
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Some fascinating responses at the Droid website on this! Its sometimes very easy to forget that many of these processes like using Metaphors in conversational persuasion are very counterintuitive, and that accurate good training in them is expensive and hard to come by, and is hard work. So in fact, it should not be surprising at all that those who have not been able to have decent training i
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QUOTE: "Aspirants to be noble clay under the Almighty effort let us advance on Chaos and the Dark" - Emerson and looking at the specific text, the James Ray message is clear. Who are the "Aspirants to be noble CLAY"? Clay...that can be shaped, and moulded. Byron Katie wants your mind to be like a flower vase, James Ray wants your mind to be like clay in his hands, like
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"Aspirants to be noble clay under the Almighty effort let us advance on Chaos and the Dark" - Emerson James Rays next twitter is a quote from Emerson, from Self-Reliance. What a self-grandiose narcissist, James Ray is. James Ray is an LGAT seminar leader, a direct copycat of many others, a reckless greedy manipulator, who's reckless exploitation has hurt many people. M
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@Christa There is certainly a sadistic God-complex power-mad aspect to James Ray. There is a lot of truth to the idea its not just about the money ONLY, as many other LGAT Gurus just focus on bringing in the bucks, and keeping those seminar-junkies at arms length. James Ray is utterly obsessed with making money for himself. But James Ray also likes to get personally involved in his superio
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Google cache of James Ray propaganda page...Setting The (propaganda) Record (Crooked). [74.125.95.132] The ugly propaganda and lies from the JR propaganda machine is profoundly disgusting. But they try to reframe all of the issues...the Guru, cult tactics, steroid use, James Ray God-complex, death fixation, food water deprivation... But notice they deliberately IGNORE the LGAT seminar tac
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Another perverse result of this, is that James Ray will easily be able to spin this to make his followers in this area believe he is still a "wealth expert". Because as stated, the first lesson these guys teach in "wealth" is the alleged ability to 'legally" protect your assets by using various complex financial instruments and asset protection trusts, and who knows
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This subject is addressed in the book the Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan. Where is training in basic critical thinking available to people? Not many places, not in the basic educational system. Where is training in advanced covert persuasion available, that is accurate and reliable? Almost nowhere, and at great cost, with most of it being full of deception and misdirection. But beyond
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That is a decent critique by Morten Tolboll, about the most basic aspect of the Byron Katie system. His main point seems to be that the Byron Katie 4 Questions are intellectually dishonest. They have the embedded presupposition that your thought is false. They are leading questions. And that is not a mistake, of course. Byron Katie designed the questions that way, delieberately, as proven
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That's unfortunate that people now have to install the Nakido Flag first, to download the PDF. Its an upload/download manager for regular users. The good thing about Nakido is that the files seem to stay there and not get deleted after 30 days of no downloads, like some other websites. But perhaps someone who already has a copy of the PDF, can upload it to a site that doesn't requir
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Joe Vitale really is at the bottom of the barrell. The faker Joe Vitale says he learned hypnosis from the faker Kevin Hogan. Joe Vitale is not certified in anything, other than being a certified scammer. The irony is of course that Joe Vitale is absolutely horrible at hypnosis, and hypno-persuasion. He has no idea of what he is doing. Its interesting that guys like Joe Vitale who brag they a
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NPD Narcissistic Personality Disorder in relation to Byron Katie and other LGAT Gurus has been discussed many times. Byron Katie (the Work) and malignant narcissism Search Google for: site:forum.culteducation.com "byron katie" narcissist Reviewing the criteria for NPD and other personality disorders can be very important for various LGAT Gurus, as it can explain much about
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HM2X, awesome stuff! Its amazing how their catch-phrases can even be used to locate Gurus. These cultish sects try to use a fig-leaf of "anger" to misdirect people, and to try and make them more PASSIVE by saying anger is fear. There is no anger in this thread. Its ASSERTIVENESS. There is no anger in assertiveness, its very healthy. And healthy anger is used to repel those who ar
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Apparently the first link above is the most recent? Janaki & Katie January 2010.pdf
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There appear to be several copies of the Janaki blog posted at the above website! Now the challenge is to figure out which one is the most recent and complete. The sizes of the files are different? Janaki & Katie January 2010.pdf Janaki & Katie 11-01-2010.pdf Janaki and Byron Katie.pdf Search Google for: site:www.nakido.com Janaki Katie
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Another little tactic that can been seen at play here, when someone is trying to play a little mind-game, instead of getting defensive, they will try the tactic of shaming a critic, by trying to make them feel guilty for cussing them out. Many of the New Wage and Nondual Gurus and their salespeople do that. They target an audience of people who are "too nice", and the Guru salesmen
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There is no indication that BKI went after Janaki or her blog in that way, they don't have a leg to stand on. Obviously Janaki was just telling it like it is. Its unfortunate that people who are new to the Byron Katie system won't be able to have the informative Janaki blog to read, to be able to get full information of what is going on. But there are probably many people with co
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There is no "pet idelogy" in forums like this, its just people posting their experiences and factual analyses. There are all kinds of diverse opinions all over the place. The "Anti Cult cult" is another fraud idea put forward by cult apologists, who are trying to distract people from looking at the actual facts and evidence. But the subject is about cults, sects, LGAT Gur
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Yes looks like the blog is gone. There is still an automatically generated HTML version temporarily in the Google cache, until it gets wiped.
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If one looks at the top of this page, there is a title called Cult Education Forum. That is the subject, not promoting new age "spiritual" multimillionaire entrepreneurs, especially those who have escaped public scrutiny, like Byron Katie, Guy Finley, and many others. If one analyzes the facts and evidence, then the so-called "spiritual teachers" being analyzed often are fo
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Well, Ben Mack is just another internet scammer. Of course Bernays talked about using "authority" in advertising, the appeal to authority is one of the main aspects of persuasion. Another example is when they put actors in white coats to pretend to be doctors in TV commercials. What guys like Ben Mack don't tell people though, is when you use a FAKE and bogus "Dr."
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