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13 years ago
The Anticult
That's part of the REAL reason why Stephen Mitchell suppressed Losing The Moon, as well as the other book A Cry In The Desert, also detailed in this thread. Stephen Mitchell had a strong enough marketing sense to realize all that insane "Nazi" stuff from Byron Katie would destroy her career. So he suppressed it. They literally bought books back, and destroyed them. He also
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Anyone can search the internet for keywords, for Losing The Moon. "Losing The Moon" pdf byron katie Byron Katie - ebook - Losing The Moon (complete).pdf. One has to wonder what the media in Germany, and German citizens will have to say about Byron Katie's many statements about Hitler and the Nazi's and the Holocaust, that she made in her recent book publish
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Here is more proof about Losing The Moon. A Byron Katie insider posted this, about how Stephen Mitchell personally destroyed and bought back copies of Losing The Moon. August 24, 2009 "And there, again, you have one of the reasons why Stephen Mitchell personally destroyed many many copies of Losing The Moon, same reason why he still buys them off the internet. There are just too many o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Byron Katie PROLONGED EYE-GAZING TECHNIQUE
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Does Byron Katie and her senior staff tell brazen lies? In her suppressed book Losing The Moon, Byron Katie says this... (QUOTE from "Losing The Moon" by Byron Katie.) Quote: "EVERYTHING WE SAY HERE IS A LIE. BUT ONLY EVERYTHING". Superficial and naive followers of Byron Katie better wake-up and quick, and see what is really going on with the complex Byron
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Byron Katie uses her EYES as a mass-marketing technique, and its very effective. It works on many levels, as it builds instant FALSE-INTIMACY with large groups of strangers. Stephen Mitchell, and Byron Katie, and their Glittering Eyes marketing stories Stephen Mitchell’s Valentine’s Story, hypno-EYES People are instructed to sit at home, and STARE at the Byron Katie photos on her books,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Read down those threads on Eckhart Tolle, where ET is pretty much explained top to bottom. Also, the Byron Katie threads. Byron Katie is more aggressive but they are both playing at the "you are a flower" nonsense. By the way, as shown in the Byron Katie thread, they want to make people into wallflowers, as guess why? Those folks will then do what they are told, and buy what they
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
No question the Eckhart Tolle material can zombify people, its really very damaging material, similar to Byron Katie, and others. There are a number of threads here about this, with links from this thread. Eckhart Tolle -- Comments From Someone who Knows Him
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Byron Katies so-called "Four Questions" are about as harmless as a spiderweb is to a fly. Its a trick. And Byron Katie even says...come into my parlor...said the spider to the fly...then she laughs... Byron Katie (the Work) and The Work on The Web, The Spider and the Fly
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
The book on Oprah by Kittey Kelley is actually pretty good. Its interesting on Amazon, the reviews are polarized in a cultish manner pro-con. In terms of James Ray, and why Oprah promoted him, it does explain a lot. Apparently Oprah has exaggerated, fabricated, and lied to a rather large degree about her past and childhood, to make a better Story for the audience. This is the same tact
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
There is a very good DVD class on the human brain. Understanding the Brain, taught by Dr. Jeanette Norden Many public libraries would have this DVD program on the human brain, 16 hours of accurate knowledge one can watch for free on DVD. A fascinating point made, is that there are specific brain structures that are connected to each person's "autobiography" in their o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Good link. There is some interesting research in that area. But here is the amazing thing. The Gurus have known this by experience, for many years. For example, Byron Katie knows very well that when she is saying or doing _______, that the people in the audience are EXPERIENCING it just by watching. Even if it is talking about another person. That is called Pacing and Leading, from NLP. Ja
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
There is a Kitty Kelley book out on Oprah, with apparently some salacious details. But some interesting quotes from the book, are that apparently Oprah exaggerated and fabricated her "Stories" from her past for marketing purposes. (sounds like Oprah has done a Byron Katie on her past Stories.) And there are quotes that former staffers say her production company is run like a cult.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
People need to be very very careful when they run into these sects that have attached new meanings to so many words. The people running the sect know that the MEANING of LANGUAGE is the primary aspect of any human's mind. So if they can start to shape those meanings, they shape the mind. Its a subtle and fast technique of thought-reform, meaning-control, mind-control. Its very powerful.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Some very important points must be clarified here. The Peru stuff is copying Carlos Casteneda. Carlos Castaneda and James Arthur Ray But this is important, very important. People without training in this area get duped by this constantly. There are 2 kinds of so-called Conversational Hypnosis. There REAL kind that can work when applied by someone who knows what they are doing, and the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
There is another method that follows James Ray's seven fundamental principles of group indoctrination. The Sedona Method and Release Technique upselling scam. They pitch you can End Suffering, like Byron Katie does. A Purpose A Vision They upsell you to Lester Levinson, Larry Crane, and other salesmen and scam-artists. A Mentor They sell the Sedona Method bait & swit
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
The Anticult
There is another method that follows James Ray's seven fundamental principles of group indoctrination. The Sedona Method and Release Technique upselling scam. They pitch you can End Suffering, like Byron Katie does. A Purpose A Vision They upsell you to Lester Levinson, Larry Crane, and other salesmen and scam-artists. A Mentor They sell the Sedona Method bait & switch
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Anecdotal claims like "it works for me!" are the primary technique of upselling these types of products. The techniques are not neutral. They are loaded, biased, and dishonest. The Sedona Method Technique in designed NOT to work as advertised. Because when it doesn't work as promised, then people wonder why. They buy another book, a CD, a DVD. They then get upsold, come to a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
The Anticult
James Ray reveals the LGAT scam right there. Usually, they conceal it in other language, but in this case its spelled out. A Purpose A Vision As stated, the first two are the initial salespitch, and they get into peoples life "meanings". That is the Big Claim, the set-up. Then it moves into drawing people into the system. A Mentor - start focussing on the Guru as your Leade
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
@ CosmicConnie: Abe-Hicks have a rather large multimilliondollar business going, with many followers. Even though Mrs Hicks is a horrible actress when she fakes going into a Abe-Trance, the Abe-Hicks couple ain't stupid. So of course they are not going to risk their own necks openly for James Ray, as James Ray might get convicted. Abe doesn't want to get tarred with James Ray, just
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
~Mishmash1 It is very fascinating to go back and look at ones own earlier worship of a Guru, and to then deconstruct it years later. It can be more than a bit disturbing to see the programmed thinking, and manic idealizations that a person was influenced into having. What Michael and Royal Way do, is the same as every other sect/group/cult. They say, if something GOOD happens in your l
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
The Anticult
The Sokka Gakkai SGI sect/cult/group, under the billionaire bling "buddhist" Daisaku Ikeda, also exploited some type of connection with with Arnold Toynbee, a short time before his final incapacitating stroke. His grandaughter Polly Toynbee says SGI and Ikeda manipulated her elderly father who was in a vulnerable state.
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14 years ago
The Anticult
Strange, that might be some typed of hacked web-page? Who knows. But the new links says the author of that advertisement pamphlet for BK is: Fifth-Peak Buddhism By Kevin Maher, M.D. There are a few links between Byron Katie and Kevin Maher. Search Google for: "Kevin Maher" "Byron katie" He's been doing promo for Byron Katie since 2002. kevin maher (Lar
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Not sure exactly what happened, but one thing for sure, that "article" about Byron Katie = Buddha, as others have mentioned, has this name attached to it. codexploder.biyosecurity.net site:www.thework.com codexploder.biyosecurity.net site:www.thework.com codexploder That same phrase is on a number of Byron Katie website pages, don't know if it a hacker situation with the B
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
The comment by "Finance Department" is strange, but not surprising. The common tactic is to tell true believers to bury their head in the sand, and don't look at the main behind the curtain, like in the Wizard of Oz. This type of website is not about being a "threat" to cryonics. Its not about "hate" or being an "enemy of cryonics". Those terms
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Who wrote that piece of poison for Byron Katie? Stephen Mitchell or someone else? Here is an important point. Byron Katie uses that type of material as deep persuasion propaganda, to shape how people think about her in their minds. So why post the full-text of Byron Katie promotion propaganda writings, without any attribution, and without any analysis? This is dangerous material, that fool
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
(the moderated posts get delayed, so its easy to miss some). That stuff actually sounds like something David Pizer would write! Can you believe those statements? Someone saying they signed an irrevocable trust, without having it reviewed, one that was recommended by the cryonics company? For "her" protection? "Greedy relatives"? The Larry Johnson occult following?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
As they say, power corrupts, and that is true. So James Ray, as his power increased over his inner circle over the years, would get more and more arrogant. Who could stand up to him at JRI? Of course no one. If anyone said anything, they were out. He wouldn't even let underlings speak to him unless spoken to. POWER. What happened with the Colleen Conaway cover-up showed that to James Ra
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
CosmicConnie, as seen in threads like this, its very challenging to communicate in plain-text, so its very easy to misintrepret things, from all sides of the issue. Its true at times there is a lot of speculation in a forum like this. But that is healthy, its people trying to figure complex counterintuitive stuff out, with incomplete information, as so much of it is concealed by the Guru
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Note to CosmicConnie... ...if you read this! Concerning some comments on Shamblog, about this thread. (for the record, it appears the Sham situation in this forum was mainly a miscommunication. I thought SHAM was a good book, and we need more books like that, with even more specific detail on exactly HOW they get away with it). But its amazing how distorted viewpoints can get, and this is
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