Here’s a classic comment courtesy “Jinnythesquinny” from among the remarks in the earlier thread that Zeusor posted….(…thanks Zeusor!) Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: I’ve just read the last few pages of the RR thread on the JCs. Good grief. It must be great to have so many stalkers, Dave, you must feel really special! Some people have no sense of proportion
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Oh and also worthy of "comment" is Jeremy's remark that, "This hate is destroying you, Dude" directed at Zeusor.... It is of course pitiable to see Jeremys hate of the truth (hence the trite reptition of David tactics to attempt to undermine others psychologically by surreptiously fomenting whatever doubt he possibly can about themselves) now destroying him....(in the
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Dear Zeusor, Rather than just than yet another simple and snide attempt at a "mock-umentary" I think it would be far more fitting if the JesusChristians turned their hand to a full blown Shakespearean tragedy.... ...can't you imagine how powerfully and vividly David would be able to flawlessly render Richard the Third, Macbeth or Shylock... What utterly gripping viewing he
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David who balefully foretold that we would go stark raving mad and has consistently and ominously pointed out the spiritual dangers we are threatening ourselves with here on this forum, with the on-going criticism we engage in. David does this, not because he wants to try to stymie our efforts to expose him, with cretin-like efforts on his part at psychological “labelling”, but because, out of t
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As this board (unlike our competitors!) is an actual working democracy of independent minds where no-one is coerced behind the scenes into “toeing the official line”, I think it only reasonable that a variety of styles be permitted, in the broader rebuttal of David’s endeavours to defraud all and sundry with a misrepresentation of the teachings of Christ: For instance….. I don’t think Zeuso
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....and the latest dishonesty? David is trying to "corral" all the parents into a forum called "Families" where they may "communicate" with their children. Obviously this will: Facilitate Davids' full and direct access to any communiction between parents and "inmates" Completely preclude any opportunites for private communication Enabl
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Dear Zeusor, David is seriously trying to downplay the gravity of the charges by a feeble attempt to make light of it all.... You are right to weigh in by pointing out the consistent criminality that the JesusChristians privatley consider themeselves to have every right to do(and which David hopes to "dismiss" publically with his flimsy effort at "wit"...)
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Dear Private Eyes, Yes it's very likely that by participating in the whipping Cherry McKay has made a "material contribution" to her "disablity" which would then render her ineligible for receipt of a "Disablity Pension"... While I've little sympathy for the woman ( I was never one of her "favorites" in the JC's....a point she made on s
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I think we can quietly afford ourselves a small toast of congratulations here....even though I'm not party to the details, the very fact that the JC site HASN'T erupted into a cascade of triumphalism and that David has (pitifully) sought to allay the concerns of the nitwitted (...who else could credit such lame mendacity) that the police somehow "lost the file" on the Jonhson
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Dear Private Eyes.... ...I don't know how far back you have read in these pages....but a "plea bargaining" arrangement (probably with the Federal Police) is what is most needed to "gut" David's banal threats to reveal the "indiscretations" (he encouraged or even demanded) of former members...the supportive testimony of former members would make that abun
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Dear vThirteen, The "fact" that the JesusChristians are not an "organization" (but rather the relevation of the "Kingdom of God".....) is of course an article of faith for them (...one they conveniently forget when sheltering under the umbrella of those God forsaken pharisaical systemites...the Quakers!) Luke 17:20-21 is an essential "proof" verse fo
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Ash asks; What is all this constant talk of damage? Who has been damaged, how has it affected their life? Was Zeusor damaged by the five minutes he spent with the JCs before bolting out the door? Is Malcolm damaged, or Craig, Atilla or Tony? If so, please explain how. Ash states: Yet there is a complete lack of any criminal or immoral behaviour by Dave, or even suggestions of such behav
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I've no doubt David would fade away as the straw man he truly is, were he not to be able to manipulate witnesses and selectively present the "facts"... Of significance here we note most recently (due to Apostates scholarly work) David's claim that Kate "agreed" to no longer participate on this site after David has clearly extorted her by threatening access to her
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Apostate endeavours, (out the forbearance he holds but which I admit I could never manage), to “engage” with Ash, who when confronted with specific examples of unethical behaviour on the part of the JC’s, endeavours to deceptively avoid debate with the irrelevancy of “Apostates” motives (spirit of “bitterness”, “hostility”, “anger” etc etc) and who when alternatively questioned about the wider p
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Dear Cinderella, Your sister would have been pointedly made to feel “guilty” at her “failings” to not have been able to make the grade in the ‘Kingdom of Heaven”. She will be extremely disorientated and unsure if she is actually at fault herself. She will at the same time, probably be a little awkwardly embarrassed about her some of previous behaviour. If she has retained any of the ideali
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Dear Lotusthehandamiden (I did get the spelling right there didn’t I….that’s Lotusthehandmaiden not LotusDavid’shandmaiden, isn’t it?) Dear Lotus, I doubt there are many people who would want to defend the entire record of the established Church or of selected Governments, however it would help in your argument that; “Dave is a great guy who has differencing opinions on doctrines.” I
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A theoretical for Ash.... David McKay uses "access" to you to extort your mother not to contribute to this site and to further emotionally blackmail Nick into discontinuing expressing his own opinions of complaint....(of course we are only speaking "theoretically" here....aren't we Ash!) Irrespective of whether or not you consider their opinions "lies",
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Regrettably it was not possible to have all the postings I wanted to contribute to The ABC forum “aired” as the forum closed after only a few days….hence my contribution must alternatively be made here…. Ash asked in one of his postings “What would Jesus have done” (and I, in reply)….. “Oh Ash I just love these manner of games (The Cryptic Crossword just gives me a headache!)……you’re d
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Dear Private eyes, ....forgive me if you already privy to this information, but in addition to the date of birth details, I believe that you'll find that David was born in Rochester, New York State where he attended the Church of the Nazarene in his youth (.....and if only he had just smoked pot, got some girl pregnant and served a jail sentence or two during his youth...what a better pla
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Here is a copy of a recent posting of mine on Livingdonorsonline...it relates to a patent lie of David to have no knowledge of the interview with Jon Ronson from the UK (an interview where the reporter actually "lived" with the JesusChristians for several days)....could those still active on the site take it up...if David is (yet again) able to cajole the moderators to "bump"
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Dear Eaglegirl, The expression of your concern here is (I would imagine!) of some comfort to Nick and Kate in itself.... I am one of the "original" members of the JesusChristians ('80 - '85) and can verify that the pattern of behaviour you have witnessed recently has a l-o-n-g antecedent... He misrepresents himself and the facts capriciously (first isolating Kate and
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.....speaking about playing a role in the end-times..... I've thought for some time David has the "personality" to make a quite reasonable Anti-Christ....the "skills" in deceit, naked greed for power and ruthlessness....it all seems to be there.... (The official denials about dabbling in "wordly empires" would all be conveniently forgotten, of course, if n
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Dear Eoin, I presume that your "family member" is now safely out of Davids' tyranny? Please continue to post (or otherwise stay in touch) as it is important to be able to piece together the sordid history behind David in order that we might be better able to contradict his deceptive charade of "biblical truth" and "unwarranted persecution".... Malcolm
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Dear Ash, (Again, I thank you for the time you have taken to contribute to a forum of "losers"...in Davids' humble opinion!) I'm sorry I missed your earlier reply....I occasionally do not "backtrack" sufficiently on postings. I still stand by most of the "theory" of the JesusChristians, so I would certainly agree with your observation that people shou
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You have a nice way with words there Apostate....I guess as David is the "root" of it all and his erstwhile family the "trunk" the JC's could best describe themselves as "Branch Davidians"......(David must be disappointed that someone has already "been there and done that"....!) .....forgive me for forgetting to state the obvious....but I must ackn
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How about this as an interesting way to communicate….for “mutual enemies” to alternatively read the exchanges made about each other on posts both of them either can’t or won’t contribute to…… Ash first!! (All quotes posted in early May 2007 on the JC Website!) "While not everyone at Rick Ross is of the same mind, the posting there rarely rises above unfounded accusations, and usually c
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(Well put Dassi!) The awareness was growing of the "bad signs" when I was part of it all, (....but surely they were just passing "human foibles" and the greater "fundamental truths" still held!!!) Even when I first made my way out, I was still unable to to view the world other than in the terms of how I had been taught to interpret it for so many years... Be
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I am aware that the debate has of late, shifted to other forums…however I do feel obliged to publicly raise a matter where I have been deeply wounded. I refer not to my injured pride, deliberately avoiding running the gauntlet of David’s “rapier” sharp wit in (his controlled) cyberspace and in consequence, cowering in the pages of the RickRoss forum where I may “lick my wounds” from the cutti
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Dear Sword, Thank you for reminding me of that scripture...it's reassuring to have a God that may yet be able to wring some good out of this all....as David has never asked "forgiveness" and in fact appear to prides himself on continuing to wreck the damage he does in the lives of others(..because whatever you may do "in the name of God" is of course completely permiss
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The importance of appropriate “checks and balances” in any system of jurisprudence is of course fundamental to the success of the legal processes therein. I’ve encapsulated what I think is a theoretical example of the “checks and balances”, currently in operation in the JesusChristians. If you would like to ask David, Ash, I’m sure that he would be able to correct where I have inadvertently p
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