I cannot help but find myself cheering for Craig (and maybe wanting to claim no credit for his integrity) in standing up to the founder of that same organisation who has shown the most callous disregard for the rights of others through things that he has said on the Jesus Christians forum. Craig is actually defending the rights of members of our community, to not be harrassed by this guy, who cal
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Thank you for your openness and honesty in the postings you made Zeusor. I’m sure everyone will feel a lot more reassured now in our mutural postings knowing more about exactly who we are dealing with. I appreciate that in so doing, you have made yourself, that much more “exposed” to David McKay and his (albeit miserable) attempts to deride his opponents. Thank you for you conscientious sincerity
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Here is the man who set about attempting to destroy the marriages of his own sons (...when their wives proved to be "unworthy" of him by questioning his wisdom too often)...and then having ultimately told himself that he had "lost" his sons due to the "wiles" of these women, ...then set about "nipping" any future problems
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OH MY GOD!! Shock! Horror!! David IS enjoying the minor fracas ensuing over the policy debate we have been having here.....but I can understand why, "small minds" becoming excited over even "smaller things" and all that....(rather than seeing the dialogue as "healthy" or "normal"' he portrays it as a "house d
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I think the tremendous quality of the postings from Private Eyes have greatly strengthened the campaign against David, while I would at the same time, support in principle Apostate, in that in general we should not “out” those who are simply victims, for whatever reason that may be, are unintentionally involved in the course of “happenstance” and who may be vulnerable in some wider sense….(for ex
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Frans' disingenuous observation about being "dehumanized" by the discussion of this site, is a deliberate prevarication. (Probably Mick Gatto and other underworld figures (including a couple of serving police??) involved in the murder of rival criminal figures in the state of Victoria, could equally say that they have been "dehumanized" by the accusa
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Dear Apostate, That was a sharply humorous insight that you made about David's children (the liberated individuals, tht is, of course!) being in the unfortunate position of having to "bring up" their own parents.....LOL! Given that David continues to abscond without approval and deliberately engages in ani-social behaviour despite repeated warnings fom them, I wonder
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Dear Joe While never having met your mother Joe, I can only assume that she is somewhat “feisty” in nature given that she is one of the few individuals who have been able to stand eyeball to eyeball with the Great Deciever himself and stare him down……(…hence he was then forced to return to his lair, tail between his legs, and in sheer spite, create the “dysfunctional families” thread on his w
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...and touché, in relation to an earlier posting Private Eyes, where you remark on the “cultic thinking” that so constricts Davids’ interpretation of the world external to his cocoon…..He “KNOWS” that we are in fact all part of larger conspiracy because that’s all that he is personally capable of conceiving. People who suffer from those nature of psychological disorders, where they need to ex
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It is entertaining isn’t it!….watching David, trying to prove to himself that he’s still “in control” by “successfully” unmasking Private Eyes…..most amusing! Not being able to put Private Eyes into a little “category” must be most unsettling for him……an apparition that must trouble him, in its haunting of his life….! While this was also evident during my “stretch in the pen”, we (those who ar
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Someone who never made entry on the “list-that-isn’t” (Shades of “Alice in Wonderland”???) but who I think deserves to be nominated for honoury inclusion is “Dassi” who posts regularly on the “Krishnas in Hawaii” forum…..a VERY perceptive lass, who is able to see beyond the simple anger she would have experienced as she grew to realize how she had simply been “used” by yet another of the world’
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Dear Zeusor, Well....that's true..... it could be possible to eventually find out such information, although that would likely be an involved and very private undertaking by the individual concerned..... However and regardless....I thank you for at least not disclosing those years I spent as the lead dancer for the Chippendales (one of those all male revue..umm... "entertainme
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Dear Zeusor, REALLY!!...the impertinence of it all! You must improve your research!!You've omitted the MOST important personal detail of all! .....here is the corrected version! Malcolm Wesley WREST One of the participants in the Nullabor walk when he was 22. Left the group in 1986 after being a member for four years. Presently resides in Korea and is employed an English
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I also see that Comrade Joe sees fit to "communicate" with his mother from the pyschological security of a forum ("Dysfunctional Families") that from it's very title, sets out to belittle those who try to remain in touch with their families.... (Hmmm.... in similar vein shouldn't we then offer David like opportunity....that is create an appropriate
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Dear Zeusor, (Hi! How are you?)Thanks for the latest propaganda broadsheet from the merry Bolshevik and his assorted apparatchiks. Not that we would want to poke fun in any way, but I do note a rather discordant tone in the some of the latest postings from Comrade Joe. Correct me if am mistaken here Zeusor, but it appears that some mindless minor peon (Fran??) has failed to inform all the r
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Dear Pauliztarza, Thank you for your recent posting although I must have missed something earlier......May I ask who the "you" is that you are adressing in relation to the commments concerning the Chick publications.... I have personally read several of the Chick tracts during the period of my membership of the JesusChristians....(you tend to encounter other "prof
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Dear Josh, I stand corrected....thank-you for at least questioning David about the manner in which Apostate and I were being discussed.....I appreciate that. You have indeed acted as a "whitish" knight in this instance. I will be less critical of your own observations, although you will have to forgive for remaining as critical as ever of David. It would hardly seem improp
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Dear Josh, As you have been so kind as to have tendered your services here: (...you'll no doubt recognize yourself being quoted here!) "If was present somewhere and someone was saying bad things about you and you didn't have the ability to respond. Then you found out about those bad things and asked to respond, but that was denied I would hope I would speak up in your d
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On the subject of rudeness: Despite our rather vehement disagreement about the life and times of David McKay, I would personally wish PtolemyGlenn no ill, and would be very unhappy to see him fall in disfavour with his employees due to the opinions he expresses on the DavidSPEAK broadcast. I have no doubt that Private Eyes is of the same mind, for in him we are able to see someone with co
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There are a number of tribal cultures where , in the face of “incomprehensible” natural phenomenon, (e.g. volcanic activity or seismic movement) peoples seek to be reassured by the delusory convictions of the likes of witch-doctors who ascribe such occurrences to the wiles of wicked demonic forces who seek to disrupt the natural harmony of the world…….such conjecture consoles those who know no
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Hmmm.... Pyschologically we all have "ideals" to which we apsire up to....when we want to attain those ideals we look to "role models" to emulate.....thus when I want to be the best spiritually, I look at Christ,.....when I want to have the best interactions with other I may disagree with , I try to look at Christ through the life of Ghandi or Mandela....
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Josh, The information I presume you and Jinny (and Dave!) wants is a precise estimate of the numbers involved here of the people actively involved and prepared to speak out against the JC's...whatever number we quoted (if we chose to do so.......) would of course then be ridiculed by David as "insignificant".....you will no doubt remember that I ridiculed the "n
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Now that it appears that the Quaker epsiode may possibly be over, I suggest that all the JC's who spurioulsy joined the Quakers in order to milk them for whatever they could, be subsequently re-named "QUACKERS"........(well if you "c" what I mean that is .......... their leader is frankly no more than a quack!!) And speaking of the Devil (speaking
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Dear Apostate, So there you ARE!.....Oh I have enjoyed your postings in relation to the (what looks like) the Quaker "core meltdown".....( Do you know how one might contact the "Ministry and Oversight Committee of the NSW Regional Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends...I'd like to mail a good bottle of wine to "J"!!!)...by the sound of t
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Dear Private Eyes, Jinny and Josh are trying to belittle the movement against the JC's (...and at the same time stealthily extract a little private information...) in the same infantile fashion that teenage (..and amazingly even some adult men!) compare their genitalia.... "Ohh....look you're no where near as big as you said you were! Ha-ha!" Given the decei
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You are correct Private eyes in that there have been dozens of little “jinny the squinny”s down through the years…..and there’ll no doubt be more, once the current one reaches her “use-by date” and gets tossed aside for something better…… (Tom, for example, the kindly Anglo-Saxon Muslim, who hosted many an outreach team in his home in Melbourne….and was briefly a member of the JC’s in Rappvill
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Dear Private Eyes, Yes I agree if you look at the whole situation from a distance....David's antics do take on the nature of a "pantomine"....I'm wondering if it isn't time for Robin and Christine to alternatively "bow" and "curtsey" and make a graceful exit however..... David will continue to ham up the role of the &q
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Dear Private Eyes, I apologize to forever be harking back to the “good old days” (more accurately the “less bad old days”), but is seems to me that we “old-timers” used to actually employ genuine scriptures in defence of the community we had (obviously mistakenly) committed ourselves to……we didn’t simply rely on interminably and incessantly whining about how “shabbily” others chose to treat ou
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Thank you private eyes, I will give your idea some consideration (the possibilities for David of an appearance one or the other of the various reality shows)... The principle difficulty I would forsee here, is that somehow, someone would have to find somewayto “package” David suitably in order to be able to “sell” the idea of having him chosen in the first place by one of the selec
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David constantly engages in “reaction formation” (a term in psychology to describe those who always “justify” themselves with reference to “earlier” behaviour they mischievously allege on the part of others (e.g.…I had to do that and in “fact” I acted quite reasonably because of the manner in which I you treated me previously…..), and in this vein persistently produces “red herrings” of imagined
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