Dear Blackhat, .....congratulations on the potency of your pointed questions...... David refuses to discuss "how" he sources funding.....Well we know what that means don't we....He is misrepresenting himself in order to swindle people out of funding that they would otherwise not give to him... David of course is "living out" the teachings of Christ here in that &
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Does anyone remember the "good ol' days" when David could at least lie competently enough to be at least faintly entertaining..... In his effort to "gut" the testimony against him on the JK program he engages in the usual wilful character assassinations, deliberate prevarication, "labelling", "projection" and other psychological devices that we are
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Dear Blackhat, Yes...Davids' hypocrisy is explained by the COG teachings he covertly subscribes to (...and the evidence of which (in his writings) he ultimately decided to remove from the public domain of the JesusChristians web-site), namely that of "spoiling Eygpt" a passage from the old testament where the departing Israelites "sack" the homes of their former master
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Oh, JOY...Oh, JOY!!! David's now trying to pre-empt the testimony against him by "detailing" the faults and foibles of all those who testified against him on the JK program.... ....so it actually must have gone SO badly against him, that he's being forced to do this in desperation, in order to "regain ground" somehow.....Oh JOY, Oh JOY!!! .....thus it must h
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...cogently put....Blackhat! In fact, putting David (lack of) logic to a little parody,...you know, now that I think of it.... ....Jesus wore sandals....and I wear sandals too....hence I must be Jesus...because only those who really love Jesus will strive to be like him....and I have strived so hard, self-importantly wearing these sandals where ever I happen to go, that I must surely have
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"It is sad that not only Brian, but everyone sitting in that studio, apart from the members of the Jesus Christians, was not able to see the error in his logic. Is it wrong for Christians to study the life and teachings of Jesus to find principles that should work in ordering our lives today? Does it prove that one has messianic delusions if they do this? Of course not." writes Dav
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Hmmm......and of course if Glenn can be "turned".... ....there's no telling who Zeusor and company might next be able to convert into "moles" next, is there? Philby, Burgess & Maclean......but who is the fourth man, ....if may be so "blunt"!!!
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Dear Blackhat, How many points do we accord each Question? By my reckoning David certainly isn't the "worst" cult leader in the world (....even though that may not be much of a compliment....it's akin to saying that someone is just a modest "murderer".....by Jack the Rippers' standards...they "pale" right way into "insignificance" you know
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Dear Blackhat, When I was "in" the "pen" doing my "stretch"......we always knew that we were lying.....but we persuaded ourselves that these were just "white lies" (e.g We are just a "small democratic community of Christians with no-one in particular as leader) in order to promote the larger "truths" (i.e. Living by faith in the Kingdom of
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As I assume that you continue to read these pages David, I suggest that you urgently realign your self-perceptions with reality.....While I have often thought that the quickest way to bring you to a stop was a simple prison sentence (Wilful fraud, Reckless endangerment, Blackmail, what have you...), it may actually be possible to have you committed to an Institution.... I see that I may have
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Dear Zeusor, "Pleasantly smiling" David who shook your hand (in public!) on the stage of the Jeremy Kyle show now finds it necessary to ban you (in private) from the JC website....?? Do we have a "double-minded" man here or not...?... (or perhaps instead, just someone single-mindedly out to "milk" all they can out of whatever public opinion they can manage to s
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...and speaking of the "public record"....for future program opportunities.... I think we should keep definitely keep note of all the families who are denied access to their children (ridiculed by their children on the JC website, in order that their children may thus "prove" themselves loyal to David, restrictions on all private communication, lack of any actual opportunit
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While I appreciate the point you have made Zeusor, I must concur with BlackHat, David's PUBLIC (Satan knows what he says in private!!) misrepresentation of scripture is just so patently, nothing more than a rueful attempt at deliberate self aggrandizement (..well okay...alright!... yes it's also partly due to an already feeble intellect simply overextending itself in its narcissitic van
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DearZeusor, Thank your for your efforts in this regard......I wish you all the best with the program....I'm sure that many of us will praying for your success over the course of the upcoming episode....(....given that David will already have the fervent hopes and prayerful consideration of Satan and his legions, behind him.....) ...don't forget to look at your private emails as we
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Dear Cait, I really don't believe that Ash can't see through David's crude mudslinging......He will know in his heart of hearts that you are indeed speaking truely and acting sincerely, however all this is being repressed in order to "protect" what he has been led to believe is a greater truth....the testimony of Christ so real that one may live by faith in him....the
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Dear Jack, Hmm...You've set me thinking here Jack.....now were I stand on a street corner and distribute these tracts....well lets say I charged a minimum of 50 cents for each, and then distributed approximately 500 a day, that'd be $250 a day, wouldn't it...which would work out at $1, 500 a week (working six days).....Hmmm, not bad..but then once I'd convinced a few others
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Dear Zeusor, We really need to have our own little "bible study" here on these pages in order to stay ahead of the fabrications that will David make use of in order to continue to persuade the "faithful" that he's the closest thing to Christ this side of the Millenium.....some of the scriptural observations that the authors of the articles (you have posted) will have a
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Dear Zeusor, I think Hello captured the contrainess of it all, when she pointed out that JesusChristians don't actually seriously listen to anyone....any conversation with them is simply "exposure" as far as they are concerned...they do not really respect anyone outside of their community, they are simply looking to psychologically profile people, and them persuade them in whate
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Dear Zeusor, Thank you for the photographs...They certainly bring home the fact that we are dealing with real people here and not simply disembodied entities on the internet......just so much "cannon-fodder" for David of course.....but nevertheless for us, people who will need assistance re-establishing their lives once the Jesuschristians implode on them.
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Dear Zeusor, The disgusting intention behind Davids smut is of course, the hope that he can somehow contrive to convince othes (as he knows full well himself that it is not true) that his vilification of you, is accurate.....hence the more he cries "wolf" "wolf"......in his endeavours to dishonestly discredit you before those who may not be party to the sordid history of Da
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Dear Blackhat, David has been refused access to this site (back many, many pages earlier in the debate) and hence cannot directly access it to personally defend himself although he can obviously instruct some of his "disciples" to do so if he so wishes (Ash, among others in the JC's, still has access to this site for example)..... If I may add to your scriptural injunction
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Dear Jack, (.....do you have access to any more of those humorous parodies of the Jesuschristian tracts???...I really enjoyed the last one!!) "Freedoms" that are never seen to be exercised obviously don't exist.... Have any more parents been made welcome to visit their children that you know of? Didn't David make a great deal out of the "access" that he claims
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Dear Black Hat, (Hmm...I DO like the Red Riding Hood allegory)...David of course tells himself that the distress and heartbreak that he engineers far and wide, is just so much unavoidable "collateral damage" in the righteous war he is waging on behalf of the Gospel.... ...while I would personally still subscribe to the theory behind "living by faith", it is of course, ac
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Dear Zeusor, Thank you for the articles....I had not seen any of the Medowie Christian coverage....As I have noted in earlier pages, it says a lot (IMO) that in the early days of the "erstwhile Christians" (a much more apt title for them than their current moniker, I do think!)....David was never able to attract anyone his age into the group....it was always young people who were his
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Dear Zeusor, As I am forever mistyping postings, I'd also not feel that concerned about Grace "spitting" in the face of the world...(something one actually often feels like doing in Korea!!!) What stikes me as incongruous about Graces comment is more the remark that: "If you can't laugh at yourself every once in a while, that's too bad."
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Dear “Lamb of God”, Thank you for pointing out that I was amiss in erroneously describing David McKay as a “monster”…you are quite right….David McKay is certainly as human as the rest of us…Once again I can only blame these late night postings (once my daughter is in bed!) for my carelessness….they unfortunately seem to be all I can manage these days… I should of course been far more respec
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Dear Zeusor, Thanks for the all the articles, information and the newsletter,….ahh! They DO bring back memories! A little ashamedly now, I was “part” of it all at one point (and I’m on the far right of the picture from the article discussing the Nullabor Walkers….) I think you have accurately highlighted one of the most crucial departures from biblical principles here…for little David Mcka
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Dear Ross, My sincerest condolences in relation to the recent death of your father. I hope that you had opportunity to personally meet up beforehand. A sincere gentleman, I thought. (I met with him once en route to Tallangatta, while we were both returning together from an outreach in Melbourne). May God receive his soul.
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David’s intellectually spurious efforts to emasculate the criticism against him, by assuring all and sundry in page after page, that his accusers are nothing more than “faithless and ungrateful scoundrels, prompted only by the bitterness in their hearts” (etcetera etcetera, so on , ad naseum) do not seem to sit very comfortably to my mind with the postings on the Australian Quaker Forum by a one
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From the “The list you’ve all been waiting for (official RR grudges)” May 18th 2007 (Narcissistic preamble…) “And so it goes, throughout the whole list. You don't find anything someone can hold up and say, "This is why I left the group." And the reason is that they left the group because they lost an interest in growing spiritually, but they wanted to pretend that
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