We seem to be going over the same ground over and over again.
The point is relevant information concerning the subjects and topics included at this message board.
It is a "Cult Education Forum" for those interested in discussing groups called "cults," "cult-like" groups and the manipulative techniques they may employ.
AA doesn't fit within that spectrum.
I don't receive such complaints from families about AA. And I have been around a long time.
On the other hand Herbalife does generate a steady stream of complaints, not to mention litigation and bad press.
Is that clear enough?