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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: January 02, 2010 05:24AM

Congrats on being clean and sober for over 11 years, Jerry--and welcome to the forum. Based on your walk history it's unlikely our paths crossed--but I'm sure you'll find someone here that knows you.
My name is Mike, BTW.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: lavender ()
Date: March 25, 2010 01:01AM

Do you remember "The Land" in Tollhouse. I lived their in the late 60's early 70's and my father was the pastor of the church in Clovis. I am no longer affiliated with this church. Just curious if anyone remembers it.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: April 13, 2010 04:32AM

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Amos
Actually it is not working out -- those folks are nuts!

Amos,
I received an email today from a friend that spent as much time, actually more, in this group than I did. What he wrote, excerpted below, reflects my own attitude. Here goes:

'The more things "change" the more they stay the same. You know what's amazing? After year after year after year of 5-7 services a week, endless listening to tapes, and all the activities, can you point to one person who's not basically the same person they've always been?
So really people are who they are -- but it's a little easier to live this life when you're not cluttering it up with 80 hours a week of trying to figure out how to please somebody else.'

Amen.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Amos ()
Date: April 13, 2010 10:42AM

The shame of it all is that all of us who were part of that, and gave our lives to it, hoped for something better. I am not so sure that the problem is that we cannot change, or did not change -- the problem is that the yardstick we used to measure change was given to us by people who forgot to use it on themselves first.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: April 13, 2010 11:06PM

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Amos
the problem is that the yardstick we used to measure change was given to us by people who forgot to use it on themselves first.

The default mode (post-John) was to blame the people for things not working out. The "word" and directives were never the problem, of course. Nor was the fact that all the real power (decision-making) in the organization was vested in just a couple people...resulting in a suffocating, fear-based environment. Again, something I do not miss.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: April 29, 2010 12:41AM

My name is Debi and I was in the walk for 20 years in Ohio. JRS is the reason I'm getting help now in my life. I had the arranged marriage.

I'm happy you are free from that place and moving on. God Bless your journey.please write and we can chat . thanks

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: April 29, 2010 12:47AM

you said it .....is any one out there to listen??????

i just found this place and i was in the walk for 20 years. i had the arranged marriage and worked in the kingdom businesses. it was a hard life but made me tough..

i have 3 sons who were born into the group and are out now but the damage has been done. please reply and we can chat....debi

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: aannonymouse ()
Date: April 29, 2010 01:06AM

Hi Debi, What years were you in? Were you in the Valley church or if not where?

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: aannonymouse ()
Date: April 29, 2010 01:08AM

Oh Debi, I just saw that you were in Ohio, so you don't have to answer that question.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: surferjer ()
Date: April 29, 2010 07:14AM

Hi, aannonymouse, Were you in the valley church? I spent a season there in the mid to late 70's.I'm sill wondering if there's anybody out there I know. I am glad you guys are out there. God Bless Jerry

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